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    Colette Pascal
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVella View Post
    I macro a bunch of abilities just for that utility - Embrace and Lustrate on Scholar, Draw on Astrologian, and every variation on Esuna. Also Goad on Rogue, for that matter.

    Macros are not always the evil Whatever-Per-Second loss that they are made out to be. If you use them for utility rather than automation, they can prove invaluable.
    Most of my SCH abilities are on macros and I agree they are incredibly useful if you do them right, but Lustrate is the one ability I would never ever macro. That is the one ability I need to be able to hit as quickly as humanly possible in a "oh s---" moment and have it work reliably. The thing with using macros is it requires a certain degree of disciplined timing, which is fine on most things, but not on your "oh s---" button.
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    S'zendaril Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Lustrate is the one ability I would never ever macro... it requires a certain degree of disciplined timing, which is fine on most things, but not on your "oh s---" button.
    Au contraire, I macro'd Lustrate precisely so I could use it quickly. Whatever works for you, of course; but my cursor is already firmly glued to the party list so I can drop Leeches/spam Embrace without needing to switch targets, and Lustrate is a natural extension of that. The only issue I get regularly is the target being out of range.
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    Luku Asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Communication doesn't happen any differently between using macros.
    #truth, ability queue is literally just a client scripted, /ac Embrace <t> x3

    Nothing's stopping you from pushing your macro 3 times or making a "pseudo-macro" as someone pointed out. In a healers case, especially a main raid healer who's duty is to keep the MT alive, dps macros like /ac "aero III" <tt> is quite effective...though most players don't even know what the <tt> command even does lol...that little macro would totally change the world for healers who are anti-dps...especially since for them it's hard to target the boss than back onto the MT...<tt> solves all their problems.
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    Ena Chleo
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    It's pretty much just the delay between actions, you will almost never get it as fast as the client-side queue, it's a bit like dark souls ability queueing, it's not as simple as mashing it 9000x a second, that can get you closer pseudo-queueing, I use one for flaming arrow on bard, but you will notice it if you macro say, ninjutsu keys, the fast smooth flow is suddenly staggered, again, you can do it that way, the client is just already designed for it

    So long as it's not causing wipes, really not that bad, but just be aware of the limitations macros can have, at times they save me time (Eye for an Eye on T and TT, Virus too) but when I heal I generally want that heal to hit a specific time, if not as soon as possible, galvanize has this nasty delay to it too, the sooner it's on the better (Most of the time)

    Again, just be aware of the limitations, they can both help and hurt, there's a good reason why it's GENERALLY frowned upon, it's probably overblown a bit, just the next time someone dies (For whatever reason, goofing mechanics, etc) examine your play, see if that heal hitting a LITTLE earlier would've saved them, the biggest decisions you make often will go unnoticed or happen in a split second, if clicking them was really that deciding factor or not
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Healing macros are fine. It will impact your max hps, but hps checks in this game are pretty low.

    I'd avoid macroing dps skills though.
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    Personally, I dislike mouse over macros. I've found that on occassion i heal the wrong person, because someone happens to walk where my cursor is sitting. This is on top of the obvious inability to skill queue macros.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Personally, I dislike mouse over macros. I've found that on occassion i heal the wrong person, because someone happens to walk where my cursor is sitting. This is on top of the obvious inability to skill queue macros.
    The three places you should mouseover are the party list, the focus target, and, for out-of-party tanks, the targetoftarget. These panels are all stationary and on top of the world, so there is no risk of someone moving and changing your mouseover, unless the targetoftarget changes (but presumably that person had his own healer and you were just helping out). If there's a mismouseover, it'll be because you had your mouse over the wrong person in the party list, which is something within your own control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The three places you should mouseover are the party list, the focus target, and, for out-of-party tanks, the targetoftarget. These panels are all stationary and on top of the world, so there is no risk of someone moving and changing your mouseover, unless the targetoftarget changes (but presumably that person had his own healer and you were just helping out). If there's a mismouseover, it'll be because you had your mouse over the wrong person in the party list, which is something within your own control.
    Mouseover macros work if you mouse your cursor over top of the actual player as well.
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Mouseover macros work if you mouse your cursor over top of the actual player as well.
    Yes, but why would you? The three panels mentioned are better in every way. I can't see any advantages to clicking on the actual player for those. For other mouse-over macros, sure, there are advantages. Especially for, say, Aether Manip, Cover, and maybe Eye for an Eye. But healing? I just don't see why you would...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Yes, but why would you? The three panels mentioned are better in every way. I can't see any advantages to clicking on the actual player for those. For other mouse-over macros, sure, there are advantages. Especially for, say, Aether Manip, Cover, and maybe Eye for an Eye. But healing? I just don't see why you would...
    I wouldn't want to do it that way, it does it automatically. If you add a mouseover macro, it works on players and on the party menu. I just don't use the mouse over macro. There are not multiple mouse over (that I am aware of) just , /ac "physick" <mo>

    Again with mouse over macro, you are not "clicking on the player" you are mousing your macro over top of them. This includes if they walk into your cursor
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