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    Agree with OP.

    Some of you guys didn't even read WHY it would be meaningful to AST, you just saw "parser" and hopped in here to "NOPE."

    OP even gave you a TLDR... GG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Agree with OP.

    Some of you guys didn't even read WHY it would be meaningful to AST, you just saw "parser" and hopped in here to "NOPE."

    OP even gave you a TLDR... GG
    Logic and statistics have already shown that 80% of the players against parsers don't do endgame raids and are usually afraid that the world will find out their dps sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickXRolled View Post
    Logic and statistics have already shown that 80% of the players against parsers don't do endgame raids and are usually afraid that the world will find out their dps sucks.
    Logic and statistics says , that players who have fun in game dont post on the forums :P and actually play the game instead ^^
    Also people who think they are soooo good in a video game want a dps parser to prove how good they are and how bad the casual player is :P to boost theyre alrdy high ego to the sky on some general forums where 99% of the world dosnt give a damn :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    The only way to avoid the parser-obsesed abuse is make a personal parser, only for you, but not allow see other people DPS...
    This would be a good start, but in the context of this thread it doesn't help Astrologians at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    Also people who think they are soooo good in a video game want a dps parser to prove how good they are and how bad the casual player is :P to boost theyre alrdy high ego...
    There is some truth in this, but then there are also those people who want to parse themselves because they want to progress in end game raids. No good group will take someone with sub-par DPS if they are serious about progression. There are good arguments for and against parsing, but lets not be so ignorant about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    Logic and statistics says , that players who have fun in game dont post on the forums :P and actually play the game instead ^^
    I post to the forums during downtime like while I'm waiting in queue or quick-synthing base mats, or heck when I just feel like talking about the game for awhile instead of playing it. I don't see how that means I don't have fun playing the game.

    Also people who think they are soooo good in a video game want a dps parser to prove how good they are and how bad the casual player is :P
    Aaaaaand there's the strawman. News flash: a lot of people that use parsers do so to measure their own personal progress. There are different types of gamers. Some people like to glamour their characters and roleplay. Some people like to do hardcore raiding. Some people like to craft or gather. A lot of us fall somewhere in between. This game has a lot of different types of content so it's able to support a wide variety of players, which is awesome. Having only one type of player would be boring.

    I like to push my DPS and see how much I can achieve while still healing. Let's face it, generally speaking, healing in this game is a snoozefest. I could set up a second monitor to watch Netflix on and just put the tank on follow and spam Physick on them every 5 seconds while I watch a movie and still successfully get through most of our content. The thing is, that's boring. When I push DPS, I don't do it to prove how good I am or how bad casual players are. I do it because it's fun. Sometimes I outdamage the DPS in our party, but honestly I could give a crap about DPS performance as we're not talking hardcore raids (where you aren't going to find many casuals anyway) and as long as we're not wiping due to lack of damage. You know that whole "I play for fun" argument? It's a two way street. This is a game. We all play it for fun. Thing is, some of us have fun pushing our boundaries and being good at the game. Other people have fun ERP'ing in the Quicksand. I don't understand it myself but hey, it's your sub.

    to boost theyre alrdy high ego to the sky on some general forums where 99% of the world dosnt give a damn :P
    Actually, people don't generally post parse info here because it's 3rd party software and etc. Besides, there's an entire website dedicated to it elsewhere. It's actually an extremely useful resource and a wonderful tool for improving gameplay. You can look at the parses of top DPS on your server or even in the world and see exactly what they are doing second by second. Having trouble with your opener and want to improve? Go see how the best of the best do it and adjust your play accordingly. Don't care about it? Cool, then you can just pretend it doesn't exist and go about your merry way.

    So, the TL;DR here is: if you aren't interested in pushing your limits and you just want to login every so often to casually play, then more power to you. However, please don't take it upon yourself to villify those of us that choose to play the game in a more competitive fashion. You probably get parsed more often than you realize. The vast majority of people running parsers are doing so for their own personal benefit (or for the benefit of their raid team) and aren't going to say jack to randoms in Duty Finder. We aren't all elitist assholes that are out to make fun of people that don't play the game the same way we do, and saying that we are is no different than a hardcore raider saying all casuals are automatically terrible players.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 03-26-2016 at 04:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickXRolled View Post
    Logic and statistics have already shown that 80% of the players against parsers don't do endgame raids and are usually afraid that the world will find out their dps sucks.
    54.94534% of statistics are made up on the spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lethallin View Post
    I want one just so I can gague my own personal performance when trying different CD/Weaponskill rotations.
    That's what the damage dummies they just added are for. Try them out and find out which one kills the dummy fastest.
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    Last edited by Lego3400; 03-26-2016 at 02:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego3400 View Post
    That's what the damage dummies they just added are for. Try them out and find out which one kills the dummy fastest.
    Dummies don't jump around, become immune sometimes, and make me pat my head while hopping on one foot at the same time as trying to damage.

    It's really not the same thing as in the real deal.
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