Please implement a parser to increase AST performance

[Kabzy]

The only way to avoid the parser-obsesed abuse is make a personal parser, only for you, but not allow see other people DPS...

This would be a good start, but in the context of this thread it doesn't help Astrologians at all.

Also people who think they are soooo good in a video game want a dps parser to prove how good they are and how bad the casual player is :P to boost theyre alrdy high ego...

There is some truth in this, but then there are also those people who want to parse themselves because they want to progress in end game raids. No good group will take someone with sub-par DPS if they are serious about progression. There are good arguments for and against parsing, but lets not be so ignorant about it.

[Ashkendor]

Logic and statistics says , that players who have fun in game dont post on the forums :P and actually play the game instead ^^

I post to the forums during downtime like while I'm waiting in queue or quick-synthing base mats, or heck when I just feel like talking about the game for awhile instead of playing it. I don't see how that means I don't have fun playing the game.

Also people who think they are soooo good in a video game want a dps parser to prove how good they are and how bad the casual player is :P

Aaaaaand there's the strawman. News flash: a lot of people that use parsers do so to measure their own personal progress. There are different types of gamers. Some people like to glamour their characters and roleplay. Some people like to do hardcore raiding. Some people like to craft or gather. A lot of us fall somewhere in between. This game has a lot of different types of content so it's able to support a wide variety of players, which is awesome. Having only one type of player would be boring.

I like to push my DPS and see how much I can achieve while still healing. Let's face it, generally speaking, healing in this game is a snoozefest. I could set up a second monitor to watch Netflix on and just put the tank on follow and spam Physick on them every 5 seconds while I watch a movie and still successfully get through most of our content. The thing is, that's boring. When I push DPS, I don't do it to prove how good I am or how bad casual players are. I do it because it's fun. Sometimes I outdamage the DPS in our party, but honestly I could give a crap about DPS performance as we're not talking hardcore raids (where you aren't going to find many casuals anyway) and as long as we're not wiping due to lack of damage. You know that whole "I play for fun" argument? It's a two way street. This is a game. We all play it for fun. Thing is, some of us have fun pushing our boundaries and being good at the game. Other people have fun ERP'ing in the Quicksand. I don't understand it myself but hey, it's your sub.

to boost theyre alrdy high ego to the sky on some general forums where 99% of the world dosnt give a damn :P

Actually, people don't generally post parse info here because it's 3rd party software and etc. Besides, there's an entire website dedicated to it elsewhere. It's actually an extremely useful resource and a wonderful tool for improving gameplay. You can look at the parses of top DPS on your server or even in the world and see exactly what they are doing second by second. Having trouble with your opener and want to improve? Go see how the best of the best do it and adjust your play accordingly. Don't care about it? Cool, then you can just pretend it doesn't exist and go about your merry way.

So, the TL;DR here is: if you aren't interested in pushing your limits and you just want to login every so often to casually play, then more power to you. However, please don't take it upon yourself to villify those of us that choose to play the game in a more competitive fashion. You probably get parsed more often than you realize. The vast majority of people running parsers are doing so for their own personal benefit (or for the benefit of their raid team) and aren't going to say jack to randoms in Duty Finder. We aren't all elitist assholes that are out to make fun of people that don't play the game the same way we do, and saying that we are is no different than a hardcore raider saying all casuals are automatically terrible players.

[Lego3400]

Logic and statistics have already shown that 80% of the players against parsers don't do endgame raids and are usually afraid that the world will find out their dps sucks.

54.94534% of statistics are made up on the spot.

I want one just so I can gague my own personal performance when trying different CD/Weaponskill rotations.

That's what the damage dummies they just added are for. Try them out and find out which one kills the dummy fastest.

[Lethallin]

That's what the damage dummies they just added are for. Try them out and find out which one kills the dummy fastest.

Dummies don't jump around, become immune sometimes, and make me pat my head while hopping on one foot at the same time as trying to damage.

It's really not the same thing as in the real deal.

[Lethallin]

I want one just so I can gague my own personal performance when trying different CD/Weaponskill rotations.

[DeeColon]

Just download ACT and use it with an overlay. It's a don't ask, don't tell policy and even then some people will actually ask publicly if anyone is using it and want to know their numbers, particularly playstation players that can't use it themselves.

If you're worried, then again, don't ask don't tell, don't harass people with it and then it has no effect on anyone whatsoever except allowing you to be a more efficient AST because "Wtf? this MCH with a 190 weapon is out dpsing the full i210 Eso power ranger DRG, well okay they're getting cards."

Edit: Actually read the replies to the thread now, my god there's a lot of stupid in here that didn't even read what the thread was about. :v

[Mwynn]

Useless, just because a SMN as example would deal low DPS, there is no Reason to throw an Arrow on that SMN.

(Ya I have read the first Post)

As an AST, stop RR Ewer and Spire in Midfight (Only do when you get both after Re-Drawing) and focus on what each Member "could" make use of these Card Buffs.
I ain't giving Arrows or Balance Cards to People that deal low DPS anyway, People who know how to play their Jobs and do a proper Rotation should get these Cards.
No use if you spent Cards on People with low DPS, as they likely won't make any use of that Situation.

INB4 too long : Stop trying to get Balance/Arrow Cards only, each Card is useful, you just have to make the best out of each Card and that's one of the Jobs Astrologian has.

[Ghishlain]

You don't need to min-max to clear content. If you've reached the point where this is actually something you NEED to clear the content, your group is undergeared. Just toss it on a DPS and move on. That same group can clear the content just fine without any AST buff at all if you're geared properly.

Sure, that's fine and dandy but why bother bringing an AST then? A Diurnal AST is basically a White Mage with party augmenting card buffs. If you don't use the buffs, you might as well just erase AST from the game because WHM would become the more logical choice to play. Telling an AST to "not bother using one of their core functions" sounds like a terrible argument.

A player can play optimally as a WHM and SCH without knowing the DPS of my other party members are. A player cannot play optimally as an AST as their performance is directly tied to the performance of their group. Giving your DPS-augmenting cards to those who are achieving high DPS means the AST is giving the most bang for their DPS-augmenting cards.

No, we don't need a parser.

Just yesterday i was in a Ravana farm group. We did well, ignored the add phase, downed him quite fast. After the first down the party leader told one of the DPS that his DPS was too low and we could clear it 10 seconds faster. This was followed by a kick. I then left too, as i can't stand that kind of attitude. I also blacklisted said partyleader and i once in a while check his farm progress. He still hasn't his pony and i hope it stays that way.

Those are people you just don't want to associate with at all to be honest. If someone is concerned about "10 seconds" and going to judge people for that, those are people you don't want to party with. A terrible leader will make terrible decisions regardless of they have a parser or not. For all we know said leader was measuring everyone's enmity during the fight (a terrible way to assess someone's skill) and saw that said DPS was under a certain desired threshold. They decided to kick them citing "bad DPS" but they based that decision due to enmity. We don't know without more facts.

So, now the question I have to ask you this. AST's potential is directly based on the DPS their party is out putting. A Balance on a 1,200 DPS will basically grant an increase of 120DPS for the next 30 seconds. Likewise a Balance on a 900 DPS will grant an increase of 90DPS for the next 30 seconds. Using that Balance on the 1,200 DPS is a 33% gain compared to using it on the 900 DPS. So, tell me, how does an AST gauge this decision without knowing exactly what their party is out putting without a parsing tool?

No idea how it works. Can you throw it on multiple people like peotect? Or is the CD too high?

Draw is on a 30 second cooldown. It allows the AST to draw one of six cards that augments a party member(s) between 15 to 30 seconds. There are ways to make this buff longer, extend it to other party members, and make it more potent. Usually you have to decide who to give the buff to depending on the fight parameters and party resources / damage.

Always try to buff as a AoE

Funny enough, it's probably better giving single target Arrow / Balance to the better DPS in 4-mans versus AoEing it - especially if you have a very good NNIN or MNK and you get Enhanced Arrow. That's an incredible attack speed boost.

Likewise, it's not always possible to Royal Road an Expand and ASTs should never be trying to hold cards for "the ultimate draw". Like most cards in the AST kit, it's all a matter of circumstances and deciding which decision is best for their party and holding cards / Royal Roads to achieve a specific effect is very limiting to the AST card kit.

Another questions, what exactly is the difference between spear and arrow?

As Ragology pointed out earlier:

Arrow increases your Attack Speed. This is similar to how Greased Lightning and Huton work and stacking Attack Speed effects with more Attack Speeds effects has incredible returns. Also note that Attack Speed is different from SkS and SpS because it doesn't affect your HoT/DoT potencies and Attack Speeds affects the GCD of both of your weaponskills / spells and your auto attacks (I believe SkS only affects your weaponskills).

Spear reduces the recast time of your abilities with cooldowns. The downside to this is that the player must have Spear on them when they activate their cooldown or else they won't get the reduction (sadly Spear isn't retroactive).

This can be a DPS increase for some Jobs like NIN (faster Ninjutsu), DRG (more Jumps / Leg Sweeps), and MCH (oGCDs oGCDs oGCDs!) since they have oGCD abilities that are generally on short cooldown. In the case of Jump, you're reducing Jump's recast from 30s to 24s if they use Jump with Spear up.

The only way to avoid the parser-obsesed abuse is make a personal parser, only for you, but not allow see other people DPS and put a message in red (like the vote kick) adversiting that abusing with this is a punishable act. This way you still can report a bad use of it. Problem solved. If someoen ask "make a capture and send me to see the DPS", you can say no.

As Kabzy pointed out earlier, this comment completely misses the context of my opening post.

AST's performance is directly tied into the performance of the party they are with. Without a way to gauge the party members accurately, the AST will find it difficult to give their DPS-augmenting cards to the correct players.

[Lego3400]

Sure, that's fine and dandy but why bother bringing an AST then? A Diurnal AST is basically a White Mage with party augmenting card buffs. If you don't use the buffs, you might as well just erase AST from the game because WHM would become the more logical choice to play. Telling an AST to "not bother using one of their core functions" sounds like a terrible argument.

I'm not saything not to use them. I'm saying to not focus on getting the most out of them, they're a nice buff but not required to clear content. Just toss them on a party member without putting too much thought into it. Just draw, toss it on a DPS if it's the right card and move on.