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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Heavensward cannot end with another cliffhanger like 2.55
    Serioudly, being repetitive in those cases is not good n a game. I would say that this will end somehow like a "light at the end of the tunnel" thing.
    I think a cliffhanger, or at least a vision of future events, will be a given (got to sell that expansion) that doesn't mean we'll be run out of town again(that was stupid anyway), it could be a number of different things born of success or tragedy.

    We might have a falling out, and leave on our own.
    We might be celebrated, but not feel like celebrating.
    We might be enjoying ourselves, then feel a more severe swoon of a vision like from 2.0.
    or we might be saying our goodbyes, as we hear word from yda and paplymo.

    these are just examples, and new events can cause even more, but I'm sure it won't be the same(hoping it isn't, too)
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    We get a cliffhanger at the end of every patch. So I have no doubt that we'll get another one at the end of the expansion. I don't believe it's a bad thing - so long as it's not another cop out. If a major character is assumed dead then they need to remain dead and not just emerge largely unscathed in a future patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I think a cliffhanger, or at least a vision of future events, will be a given (got to sell that expansion) that doesn't mean we'll be run out of town again(that was stupid anyway), it could be a number of different things born of success or tragedy.

    We might have a falling out, and leave on our own.
    We might be celebrated, but not feel like celebrating.
    We might be enjoying ourselves, then feel a more severe swoon of a vision like from 2.0.
    or we might be saying our goodbyes, as we hear word from yda and paplymo.

    these are just examples, and new events can cause even more, but I'm sure it won't be the same(hoping it isn't, too)
    Probably I misundestood the meaning of cliffhanger I apologize. I assume we will not have a super mass tragedy like on 2.55.
    I just hope is not repetitive.
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    Considering that Yoshida said sometime ago that the Dragonsong War would be concluded within the 3.0 series, a cliffhanger seems very unlikely. Regardless of that, I like SOME things to have a proper conclusion instead of nothing but a trail of breadcrumbs. Besides, you can have cliffhangers for other story elements like the Garleans.
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    I have to wonder if the scenes on the 'Heavensward' opening actually depict the final stage of the war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    I have to wonder if the scenes on the 'Heavensward' opening actually depict the final stage of the war?
    Some of the discrepancies from the Dragonsong opening could be attributed to taking place in Dark/Derplander's world to cover the Hraesvelgr/Nidhogg oversight when making the intro movie lol. I think it would be a nice little twist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    The personal wrinkle lies in HOW to "kill Nidhogg".
    Easy, we already killed his body, now we need to destroy his eyes.

    Midguardsormr makes the basis for this idea since, despite being killed decades ago, that his spirit remained and he has since constructed a new body.

    Ratatoskr was bith slayn AND had her eyes destroyed (possibly litterally eaten too) so she's perma dead.

    With his eyes removed Nidhogg's body was on the brink of death until Hrasvelgr loaned him one of his eyes.

    This suggests that the eyes are the key to their existence and that as long as their eyes exist so does their spirit. Which could allow them to potentially form a new body (as Midguardsormr did) or possibly possess one like Nidhogg did.
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    I like how a dragon's eyes are literally the window to their soul.

    Hard part with destroying Nidhogg's eyes is the fact that they're attached to a highly trained Dragoon. Not that it was any better when they were attached to a huge angry dragon though...
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    Hraesvelgr is a certainty in the final battle I think; Nidhogg has made clear that any who do not fight beside him will be treated as an enemy and this will force his brother to finally intervene. Tiamat, however, I think is unlikely to join the fray as she still wishes to serve penance for corrupting the memory of Bahamut and I think this will do nothing to change that.

    As for the Eorzean Alliance I'm really not sure what to expect. All the story pertaining to Ishgard joining the alliance is, I think, actually just setting up for the four city states to declare war on Garlemald. I'm not sure if we'll see much from them until the Dragonsong War is actually over.

    Honestly the real question at this point is how we'll kill Nidhogg. When we fought him in the Aery he was only at half power due to missing an eye AND he was being weakened by Estinien's eye. He was extremely weak compared to his true strength. We're likely not going to be able to just fight him head on this time... I'm hoping we get to use that airship at Cloudtop at last; it's been sitting there conspicuously for ages now and we know it was built for combat with the dragons.
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    A Steps of Faith-esque battle aboard the Protector/Protecteur would be kind of nice, but I shudder to think of what happened to poor Vishap post nerf. (Why the hell does the map labeling spell it -eur when all other ingame references it as -or?)

    Then again, coming to terms with the idea that one day you'll be able to solo all the old content in this game is something I'm expecting to wrestle with for a while.

    A fight where he switched between dragon and man forms would be nice too, but honestly I have no idea what to expect or what I'd want from an in-game trial/dungeon confrontation with Nidhogg. The Aery was already testing my limits of acceptability, lol.
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