Kisses LS - Recruiting

[Tyrant]

I'll address facts presented thus far, one by one. Feel free to remind me of any overlooked. I'll add them to this list. Bold parens are my comments.

1. We discourage swearing.
   (... we discourage swearing, that's all there is to it)
2. We party with non-members.
   (... really? Really? Why is this an issue?)
3. A member's performance against Ifrit was once lacking.
   (... only by trying can they improve - and he has)
4. A member tried to MPK an Ifrit party.
   (... MPK is strongly discouraged, and will continue to be discouraged)
5. We currently don't do well against the Moogle King.
   (... only by trying can we improve)
6. A member's odd hours made an armorsmith reconsider helping him.
   (... a matter between crafter and client)
7. LS leader offered Vicious a chance to join Kisses.
   (... obviously rejected, matter settled?)
8. LS leader kicked people.
   (... we certainly will weed out players who prove to be a source of internal friction)
9. Some members have prior bad history before they joined.
   (... history is history, as members they start anew)

That covers the facts blown seriously out of proportion. It is entirely up to thread readers whether to treat them as something overly dramatic. I resent the effort at embellishment and fomentation in a thread that originally contained no provocations toward Rowln, or Vicious. People mingle, while some get along and some end up at each others' throats. Clearly, Rowln and Kisses fall into the latter. Let's agree to disagree, Rowln.


Nero.

No offense, just saying.

Its not meant to be an offense in all honest.

That's fine. Unfortunately, Rowln clearly meant offense - and that is who you've supported in this thread. Let's also simply agree to disagree. You predict pitfalls awaiting Kisses down the road - then we'll see how we handle those days should they arrive. You seem to strongly resent any amount of restraint on vulgarity, however feather-light the restraints are. That's fine, we haven't started to gently remind non-members to mind their words when we see swearing, nor should we.

Kisses is a friendly linkshell, and that won't change even in the face of others' unfriendliness, misconceptions, or outright trolling. If we eventually stumble, we're going to make sure we regain our footing in the right direction. We're determined to be here for years. We're also determined to develop Kisses into a positive experience for its members. If you would like, you could wish us luck - because further success would only mean a lively, large, and enjoyable linkshell named Kisses.

To that end, we continue to welcome those seeking a social linkshell. Kisses may very well become the place they call home in Gysahl.

[Patx]

What i dont understand is why those Vicious guys keep coming to this post to derange us when our LSs are both opposite in intentions and objectives.
Vicious seems quite clear to me like an elite end game content LS with the belief of quality over quantity.
Kisses is a social LS with the objective to teach new players or players unwanted in elitist LSs how to improve their gameplay and always seeks the quantity of friendly ppl over quality of more unfriendly ones (care there i dont mean that elite LS are full of unfriendly ppl).
Being said that i still dont get the point of the elite coming to a thread of a social LS to rant and/or troll here, is like i suddently were to complain about BG in one of their posts even though im from a diff server.

[Eldarion18]

I don't personally mind swearing, but please remember I'm 15, and my father is pretty strict about it. That's why I have that rule

I'm gonna try and sound as impartial as I can be regarding this but I'm sure your dad would be fine with just *you* not swearing. I'm sure as a mature, grown-up individual he realizes he has no authority whatsoever to stop the rest of your linkshell from swearing because

a) he doesnt know these people
b) he's not even playing this game, I'm assuming
c) even if he did play, it's really none of his f**king business if other people wanna swear if they're not living under his roof

[Kimem]

Well... i really don't care about the "no swearing" rule, because is very relaxed to play and do events without the "fking sh1t" crap.

[Rowln]

Tex fake dc as we entered the fight. Akiawa shouldn't be paid attention too, rage quitter and all.
As far as your ls numbers go. Vicious has a quality over quantity route. It shows with na server first on ifrit and world first on moogle.
Our linkshells have different ways of handling themselves so I think its best to agree to disagree on how things are run. Hell I am still one of their newest member.
Oh and I am the true taru king/overlord sorry for the spoilers.
-Good King Taru Rowln

[Nero]

Also, why did you wait JUST until we moved above you in the ffxivpro rankings to start flaming our LS recruiting thread?

Eh? This one is funny..

1. Kisses is not above Vicious
2. You really compare FFXIV-Rankings between a LS with 100 Member and a LS with 23 Members?

Beside the Fact that something like a "Ranking" on a Fansite doesnt mean anything, are you really surprised that Linkshells with more Members are at higher Ranks? Its simple Math, since the Rankings are based on the Points of the Players. 100 Members could easy get more Points than a LS with 23 Members..

But again.. a Ranking on a Fansite doesnt mean Shit.. in no way.

[Rowln]

You misunderstand me. I posted my observation on your ls only, which I was attacked for because "I had never pted with them ever." So I went and listed my experiences with members.
Then I was called mean. Contrary, I'm a real civil guy who will help people if I can.
I have no beef with your ls, I may not agree with who you choose to invite but that is your business.
Like my first post states, good luck.

[Patx]

Dont get me wrong Rowln, it wasn't "because you never pted with us" it was because you were pointing out how our LS works even though you are not a member of our LS (go back to your very first post that began with all the rampage and re-read it.
And talk about attacks? no1 here said a bad word about you or your LS... want me to refresh your memory and tell u who called us whores?
You wish us luck? so do we to you... and thats all theres to that.


P.D: I insist in the differences between our roles as LSs and that this is not the place for an elite LS to come argue because with that you are ruining the very function of our LS... wich is socialize and keep it friendly. If u want to start a discussion pls, i encourage you to find a rival end game elite LS to fight with.

[Tex]

Hi everyone!

About the *** Rowln says, in my defense I would like to say this: true when you say "I was low on dps", but false at fake d/c. Also is not the firts time that happens to me doing ifrit, it happened doing ifrit with Kisses too.

The best part of this is,, I was there sit waiting for your (Vicius) to say you "guys sorry I get d/c", but the firts shit you guys said was " Another Kisses Fail + start lauching " so.. I just abandoned the idea to do pt with you *pros* again.

Also I have an input for you, if you don't like do party with me or you don't like the Linkshell you know what? Just let us be and don't post again beacuse, your post are just like the ppl that want to create a bad environment in a group for some reason, really I don't care a shit what you think, just to make it clear.

This is the firts LInkshell I've been for soo long w/o any problem or drama of any kind.

Anyway... How can I mpk you outside the b/c?? XD If you don't see me in the party and you start fight knowing that and die...is your fault not mine lol!

Anyway that's all I want it to say.

Have fun and take care

Kind Regards.

Tex

[JackyBrown]

since i like drama i'll continue this.let's get this to page 10!

[1]<Astin Prey> ur in 1 single ls
[1]<Xeraphine Silvermoon> lolz
[1]<Astin Prey> if i were u
[1]<Armadeus Laven> holly shit
[1]<Hienslar Lor> being in more LSes don't change the fact that fighting moogle 40 times and getting shit is just palying boring.
[1]<Astin Prey> id join primal hunters, kissed, altima, and maybe even try to get into vicious if they will take u
[1]<Hienslar Lor> why cant you understand this?
[1]<Xeraphine Silvermoon> either way, we are (As in Arma, Lazy and I) are all working adults
[1]<Xeraphine Silvermoon> with a full time job
[1]<Armadeus Laven> omg, u mentioned altima
[1]<Astin Prey> the more ls u have the more things going on, the more actiities, and FRIENDS
[1]<Astin Prey> ive only fought moogle twice u know....
[1]<Xeraphine Silvermoon> it is not in our mind to play ff xiv like we do our job in the office
[1]<Hienslar Lor> you mean the more grinding mobs and not getting anything worth it?
[1]<Xeraphine Silvermoon> so case closed for the 3 of us
[1]<Astin Prey> xera i have school too
[1]<Astin Prey> incase u havent noticed, i only log in maybe 4 hours a day
[1]<Astin Prey> sometimes less on weekdays
[1]<Xeraphine Silvermoon> school? school is nothing
[1]<Astin Prey> but that hasn't stopped me from keeping my ls alive
[1]<Armadeus Laven> dude, u lost credibility with me when u asked me to join altima
[1]<Armadeus Laven> u should join them
[1]<Astin Prey> arm, ur 1200 in the server and in 1 ls and on the verge of quitting
[1]<Armadeus Laven> lol
[1]<Astin Prey> i could care about what u think. u will be non existant in this game in a week anyway
[1]<Armadeus Laven> better than being in altima
[1]<Astin Prey> you've already proven how closed minded you are
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> Astin every time u come in this LS u start trouble
[1]<Armadeus Laven> ok i am closed mind
[1]<Astin Prey> so kick me
[1]<Hienslar Lor> You're being pretty close minded yourself. Not trying to understand that the game is boring and people won't change that.
[1]<Armadeus Laven> i have no exp
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> If i culd i would
[1]<Armadeus Laven> altima is kick ass
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> could*
[1]<Astin Prey> oh wait u cant cuz kym doesnt wana make u leader
[1]<Astin Prey> ur a nobdoy in this ls
[1]<Armadeus Laven> ascension is dying
[1]<Astin Prey> sad isnt it?
[1]<Armadeus Laven> i am a nobody
[1]<Astin Prey> your 1 of the most active in the LS kall
[1]<Armadeus Laven> i am sad
[1]<Astin Prey> and your not even leader
[1]<Armadeus Laven> happy new yr to you
[1]<Hienslar Lor> What is wrong with your dumb ass astin?
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> lol why would u think im active? or would want leader?
[1]<Astin Prey> i didnt come here to debate this anyway
[1]<Hienslar Lor> Why are you being a complete fucking moron exactly?
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> Its what she does Hein
[1]<Hienslar Lor> you came in here to just talk and not evne listen. You expected us tol isten we did and we responded as to why. What did you do?
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> ever since Kym let her in and didn't kick her when everyone in the shell asked.
[1]<Astin Prey> kall say what u want
[1]<Astin Prey> there is a reason ur in a dead ls
[1]<Astin Prey> and not in any ls worthy of credability
[1]<Hienslar Lor> Why are you even talking still?
[1]<Astin Prey> back to my ls now 1 of the best ls in the server *it's the only LS you'll ever be in anyways u flaming whore XD*
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> lol
[1]<Kallaks Nightsbane> ok then
[1]<Astin Prey> a ls that people actually do evnts and have a real website with real members who talk *thanks to your website i have eyecancer tho, thanks for that!*
[1]<Astin Prey> ta
[1]<Minerva Stillenacht> i wonder how that ls talking
[1]<Armadeus Laven> enjoy time with altima ^^/
[1]<Minerva Stillenacht> seems lots of debating ?
[1]<Hienslar Lor> I like how astin pretty much said nothing.
[1]<Katlyna Laven> no he said something wosrt
[1]<Katlyna Laven> he said altima is credible
[1]<Katlyna Laven> and worthy
[1]<Hienslar Lor> I wish i knew what makes an LS "credible"

the red lines are my favorites, and those with ** have my personal notes.
now feed me with more drama!
btw i'm keeping this anon using a friends retired account, so don't bother finding me online to flame me there XD