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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    Uh. No. It doesn't. Optimal is the best.
    Our definitions of optimum or most satisfactory are a little different. I value the price it takes. Spending 300k on that third slot at what 16%? Good luck with that. Optimal is not best. It's what is most favorable. To me overspending is not optimal.

    This is all irrelevant though since the OP has your max slotted options and other's more economical suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Our definitions of optimum or most satisfactory are a little different. I value the price it takes. Spending 300k on that third slot at what 16%? Good luck with that. Optimal is not best. It's what is most favorable. To me overspending is not optimal.

    This is all irrelevant though since the OP has your max slotted options and other's more economical suggestions.
    op·ti·mal
    ˈäptəməl/
    adjective
    best or most favorable; optimum.

    Optimal IS best AND most favorable.
    The best ring has all the stats. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Our definitions of optimum or most satisfactory are a little different. I value the price it takes. Spending 300k on that third slot at what 16%? Good luck with that. Optimal is not best. It's what is most favorable. To me overspending is not optimal.

    This is all irrelevant though since the OP has your max slotted options and other's more economical suggestions.
    The word you're looking for is "efficient", not "optimal".
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    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/CRP

    CRP as an example, there's literally no difference between the crafting classes so BiS for one is the same/equivalent for all.
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    I think the problem with put too much CP materia is the requirements to craft. 3 Stars Recipes need 850 crafmanship and 820 control, which are not easy to get even with food. I will suggest cap Craftmanship, follow by control, then if you have space, CP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    I think the problem with put too much CP materia is the requirements to craft. 3 Stars Recipes need 850 crafmanship and 820 control, which are not easy to get even with food. I will suggest cap Craftmanship, follow by control, then if you have space, CP.
    The analogy I give to people when teaching them about crafting is that CP is accuracy, and Craftsmanship and Control are Crit and Det, which don't mean anything if you can't hit.
    It's easy to hit the minimum requirements for 3 star if you forego CP, but then you can only NQ synth things like Sephirot Trees. If you don't give yourself enough CP to use a reliable rotation to HQ there's no point. The maximum crafting tier is not supposed to be fast or easy to be able to do and it's not going to be until a few patches from now. Also, you only need to actually reach 830 Craftsmanship and 800 control, a Specialist stone gives +20 / +20 and afaik the 3 star recipes are all Specialist only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeColon View Post
    If you don't give yourself enough CP to use a reliable rotation to HQ there's no point. The maximum crafting tier is not supposed to be fast or easy to be able to do and it's not going to be until a few patches from now.
    419 CP with food is plenty for me on 3-stars, even though that isn't enough for any of the rotations for dummies floating around. The recipes are pretty easy compared to some of the stuff we had in ARR.
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    I have 405 cp before food and 450+ after on every crafter using an omni set (if not more in the case of specialists crafters with I170 gear.) I think my cp is doing fine.

    Master 4 recipes are easier than master 3. Meet stat minimums and use the easily available HQ eso mats to make the craft so effortlessly you could macro it.
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