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    What is th optimal melds for Astral Birch Rings?

    Hello

    I just bought a pair of Astral Birch Rings HQ and would like to know to optimal, generic, (not class specific), melds for them. I went to a few websites but couldn't figure it out

    Thank you for your help !!
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    I've found this document very helpful.

    Look at the "Meldable Stats" box to the right of Astral Birch Rings. Use Materia that will get you to those stats, what materia you use and what order you meld them in will be based on your own server's economy.
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    A cheaper meld option that I used for jewls was
    Control IV +4
    Control IV +4
    Craftsmanship IV +6
    CP II +2
    CP II +2

    You aren't maxing the craftsmanship, but you should be able to make up for it on you secondary tool.

    On all other accessories it's
    Control IV +4
    Control IV +4
    Craftsmanship IV +6
    CP III +3
    CP III +3
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    I've found this document very helpful.

    Look at the "Meldable Stats" box to the right of Astral Birch Rings. Use Materia that will get you to those stats, what materia you use and what order you meld them in will be based on your own server's economy.
    Astral Birch Ring CP meldable is incorrect, you can only meld CP4, NOT 5
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    As another poster mentioned the document is wrong on at least 1 part.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Culinarian

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    A cheaper meld option that I used for jewls was
    Control IV +4
    Control IV +4
    Craftsmanship IV +6
    CP II +2
    CP II +2

    You aren't maxing the craftsmanship, but you should be able to make up for it on you secondary tool.

    On all other accessories it's
    Control IV +4
    Control IV +4
    Craftsmanship IV +6
    CP III +3
    CP III +3
    OP asked for optimal. Thus your scenarios are wrong. Your "all other accessories" doesn't even max CP which is arguably more important.

    OP, optimal rings are:
    CP IV, Control IV (x2), Craft IV(III), Craft I(II). The "order" depends on your server's economy, but mostly likely that'll be control,control,CP,craft,craft.

    Optimal other accessories.
    Craft V, CP IV (x2), Control IV (x2).

    Impractical, yes, optimal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JalapenioCheetoes View Post
    I just bought a pair of Astral Birch Rings HQ and would like to know to optimal, generic, (not class specific), melds for them. I went to a few websites but couldn't figure it out
    It's going to vary a little depending on how much the various materia are going for on your server.

    The cheapest option if you want to cap all three stats is going to be:

    1. Control IV or CP IV (whichever is more expensive)
    2. Control IV
    3. CP IV or Control IV (whichever is cheaper)
    4. Craftsmanship III
    5. Craftsmanship II

    If you don't care about capping Craftsmanship, you can use a cheaper option, such as:

    1. Control IV or CP IV (whichever is more expensive)
    2. CP IV or Control IV (whichever is cheaper)
    3. Craftsmanship IV
    4. Control II
    5. Control II

    Or, if CP IV is significantly more expensive than Control IV on your server:

    1. Control IV
    2. Control IV
    3. Craftsmanship IV
    4. CP II
    5. CP II

    Or, if you really don't care about Craftsmanship at all, you can do something like:

    1. Control III
    2. Control III
    3. Control II
    4. CP II
    5. CP II

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    Craft IV, Craft I
    I think (and this is quick, back of the envelope math, and likely at least a little incorrect) that as long as the difference in cost between IV and III is larger than the difference between II and I, Craftsmanship III, Craftsmanship II should be cheaper than Craftsmanship IV, Craftsmanship I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    As another poster mentioned the document is wrong on at least 1 part.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Culinarian



    OP asked for optimal. Thus your scenarios are wrong. Your "all other accessories" doesn't even max CP which is arguably more important.

    OP, optimal rings are:
    CP IV, Control IV (x2), Craft IV(III), Craft I(II). The "order" depends on your server's economy, but mostly likely that'll be control,control,CP,craft,craft.

    Optimal other accessories.
    Craft V, CP IV (x2), Control IV (x2).

    Impractical, yes, optimal though.
    The cap for cp is +4 on rings +8 on other accessories. You got me there. Optimal has a broad meaning
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 03-24-2016 at 07:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Optimal has a broad meaning
    Uh. No. It doesn't. Optimal is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    Uh. No. It doesn't. Optimal is the best.
    Our definitions of optimum or most satisfactory are a little different. I value the price it takes. Spending 300k on that third slot at what 16%? Good luck with that. Optimal is not best. It's what is most favorable. To me overspending is not optimal.

    This is all irrelevant though since the OP has your max slotted options and other's more economical suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Our definitions of optimum or most satisfactory are a little different. I value the price it takes. Spending 300k on that third slot at what 16%? Good luck with that. Optimal is not best. It's what is most favorable. To me overspending is not optimal.

    This is all irrelevant though since the OP has your max slotted options and other's more economical suggestions.
    op·ti·mal
    ˈäptəməl/
    adjective
    best or most favorable; optimum.

    Optimal IS best AND most favorable.
    The best ring has all the stats. Period.

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