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    Quote Originally Posted by kensredemption View Post
    Speak for yourself. There's nothing really flawed about marriage, regardless of the context. Besides, it sure beats being promiscuous. :P
    unfortunately promiscuity and marriage technically do not have anything to do with each other. you yourself should have stories of people not being very faithful.
    marriage itself isnt flawed, its just often viewed as an actual living being that sits on a throne in the south pole who was molested by a male priest as a child instead of just a human ideal.

    marriage is technically and scientifically pointless. its only when human emotions get involved that they conjure the feeling of the need of exclusivity with one other person on an emotional and "spiritual" level. its this idealism here that is flawed in humans because divorce and infidelity are prevalent in both gay and straight relationships.

    to keep gaming stress free id say leave marriage out. but if it must be in then i strongly agree with adding gay marriage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    unfortunately promiscuity and marriage technically do not have anything to do with each other. you yourself should have stories of people not being very faithful.
    marriage itself isnt flawed, its just often viewed as an actual living being that sits on a throne in the south pole who was molested by a male priest as a child instead of just a human ideal.

    marriage is technically and scientifically pointless. its only when human emotions get involved that they conjure the feeling of the need of exclusivity with one other person on an emotional and "spiritual" level. its this idealism here that is flawed in humans because divorce and infidelity are prevalent in both gay and straight relationships.

    to keep gaming stress free id say leave marriage out. but if it must be in then i strongly agree with adding gay marriage.
    I was just using promiscuity as a springboard, really. Me? I'm morally conservative, though I have no religion per se. As for the rest of that paragraph: You lost me completely. I know you're trying to use a metaphor, but it's not one I'm familiar with.

    I agree with you to a degree with what you've stated in your second paragraph. Humans are still animals by nature, and by that nature: Males are driven to plant their seeds in as many recipients as possible. Although, I would think that with the stigma and "standards" for ideal partners that have been implemented via consumerism and pop culture cultivation: A lot of people are left to rot, and their deprived desires are ultimately manifested in...abhorrent ways.

    In any case, it's like I've said before: Whether or not there is any emotional investment in the party in question, implementing this feature is purely for role-playing purposes - just like it was in XI, except you have wedding garments and rings to show for it. Ah...the tux was pretty snazzy from what I remember...
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    I support marriage in FFXIV as well, same-sex marriage as well.

    Just as a side note, being a biologist specialized in physiology AND studying psychology:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    marriage is technically and scientifically pointless.
    This statement is false. Science has shown that marriage has a tangible impact on people (mostly positive, but I'll keep the details out, it is not the point of this forum) and is not pointless. It serves many purposes in our society and on a personal level as well (it is far from being only a religious thing). Saying marriage is pointless is simply an opinion of your personal beliefs on the matter, not a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensredemption View Post
    Speak for yourself. There's nothing really flawed about marriage, regardless of the context. Besides, it sure beats being promiscuous. :P
    It's one of the many "rituals" which should be left in the past. You can love someone and be with them, only them, without marriage. Animals can do it, why can't we? Marriage simply shows our insecurity in ourselves and in others to the point that we need to put our "love" on contracts and in the hands of the government. It's sad, that in 2011, society is still so infantile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miqokini View Post
    It's one of the many "rituals" which should be left in the past. You can love someone and be with them, only them, without marriage. Animals can do it, why can't we? Marriage simply shows our insecurity in ourselves and in others to the point that we need to put our "love" on contracts and in the hands of the government. It's sad, that in 2011, society is still so infantile.
    My apologies, then. I interpreted your tone as that of being...I suppose the best word for it would be bitter. In any case, I'm not sure that the majority of people view marriage the same way you do. Some people just like making a statement that they belong to another, and nothing says that better than getting married. Some people also have organized marriages, and that's just a cultural thing. It'd be nice to avoid all the bureaucracy, that I agree with you on. Of course, that doesn't mean you can paint all married couples with the same brush.

    If I'm not mistaken, I'm sure creatures in nature do the same thing - do they not? Whether or not they're capable of love is beyond me, but the male establishes his exclusivity to his partner/partners through displays of strength. Of course, in the society we live in we distort that by determining who's a better lover in bed or who has the most money. Sad, but true, and it's because of that bureaucratic madness that such things happen. If people are not to be wed "legally", then at least establish some sort of sense of exclusivity...I'm speaking in terms of outside the game, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    in game marriage is both controversial and simply a joke. leave it out. I dont play video games to listen to people whine that there is no same sex marriage or that there is same sex marriage. I play to escape Real Life which includes this issue. If everyone cannot agree on one way or the other then leave it out.
    That certainly speaks to your character. You can't keep running from your circumstances, they'll always catch up with you. Besides, whether or not the marriage feature even involves the emotional investment of those who are getting involved - this is simply for those to indulge their role-playing capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensredemption View Post
    That certainly speaks to your character. You can't keep running from your circumstances, they'll always catch up with you. Besides, whether or not the marriage feature even involves the emotional investment of those who are getting involved - this is simply for those to indulge their role-playing capabilities.
    Oooooooooooooook cool guy.
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    Before this thread turns into another pissing match, let's talk about those cookies.

    Those cookies were good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    Before this thread turns into another pissing match, let's talk about those cookies.

    Those cookies were good.
    You mean the Pumpkin Cookies? I'd never tried them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    Before this thread turns into another pissing match, let's talk about those cookies.

    Those cookies were good.
    I can't eat chocolate chip cookies anymore, because when I was little I ate an entire chocolate chip cookie cake and was sick for days. It's stuck with me ever since.
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