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    Geula's Avatar
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    Geula Goldenberg
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    Scholar Lv 50

    Paladin quests from level 30 to 40.

    Any else kinda disappointed how bland the quests are? Do the quests get better at later levels? Does warrior also get shafted?
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 80
    PLD has arguably the most horrible storyline in the game. I keep a link in my signature to What Makes a Paladin - an essay I wrote complaining about the very thing (though be warned, what little plot there is will be spoiled if you read it). WAR is better and more fitting with the job fantasy, and DRK is generally agreed to be one of the best plotlines in the game (at least, 30-50).

    The biggest let-down about the PLD quests is that they come on the heels of the GLD questline, which is another exceptionally great questline. Everyone in my FC agrees that the GLD story is incredible, which makes the poor PLD story that much worse.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 03-24-2016 at 12:19 AM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I always thought the PLD quest was a bit anti-climactic. It started off kinda cool, I liked the Roe and how he had that air of mystery about him... but then it just kinda... got super boring... I dunno. I'm curious about the 50-60 quests but not enough to level PLD. P:

    Also, RE: the GLD questline, I thought that was a fun one - especially the instanced fights with that Hyur guy and the little bit of character building between him and the class quest giver.
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    Ritza Solair
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 79
    30-50 is just a meh (small build-up to a instance fight to prove inosence) 50-60 is more of a ??? (cloak & dagger build-up to a hilander style instance fight) won't say more for spoilers reasons
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I find that with most class/jobs in this game, half the story is boring while the other half is interesting. For Pld, I liked the characters for the Gld quests more than the ones for the Pld quest. For War's, the job quests were far more interesting than the class quests. Drk doesn't really have class quests, but the sub 50 quests were WAY better than the post 50 ones.

    For the Pld quests, specifically, the post 50 quests do have some intrigue. There's a pretty interesting streak of lore in there, but you have to really read between the lines to get at it.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I find that with most class/jobs in this game, half the story is boring while the other half is interesting.
    They sort of dropped the ball with some of the job quests. I admit that there's not much you can do when you only have 5 quests in which to tell a story.
    For Pld, I liked the characters for the GLA quests more than the ones for the Pld quest. For War's, the job quests were far more interesting than the class quests. Drk doesn't really have class quests, but the sub 50 quests were WAY better than the post 50 ones.
    To be fair, the PLD and WAR 30-50 quests had a goal in sight. What made the DRK 30-50 questline so memorable to people was the sort-of-surprise at the end.

    I'll agree that PLD's quest was a bit on the bland side. WAR at least had reasonably high stakes, but again you knew what you were going to face.
    For the Pld quests, specifically, the post 50 quests do have some intrigue. There's a pretty interesting streak of lore in there, but you have to really read between the lines to get at it.
    I think the problem was the lack of risk in the 50-60 questline. Risk and conflict are what make a story interesting (not to say a story should have risk and conflict all the time, as that would devalue everything), and the one assumed risk by the player was taken away and replaced by something else.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Seku Halvone
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    In short no.

    Paladin is probably the worse story line of all the classes imo.

    And the Dark Knight quests are good not just because of the end. But also because it outlines your journey into the hatred that Drk's are suppose to be tied in with. That and the first fight to unlock the job is just pure awesome.

    But of all the 3 tanks, it feels that SE puts the least amount of work into PLD, their getting better. Hopefully 4.0 will bring a new level cap and with it a better storyline along with some good abilities.
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    Dia Beetus
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    Paladin Lv 80
    In a word, no. They dont get better.

    It just gets more rediculous and silly from 50 to 60.
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    In short no.

    Paladin is probably the worse story line of all the classes imo.

    And the Dark Knight quests are good not just because of the end. But also because it outlines your journey into the hatred that Drk's are suppose to be tied in with. That and the first fight to unlock the job is just pure awesome.

    But of all the 3 tanks, it feels that SE puts the least amount of work into PLD, their getting better. Hopefully 4.0 will bring a new level cap and with it a better storyline along with some good abilities.
    I found PLD 50-60 better than 30-50 but yeah I agree I hope they do better in 4.0, PLD needs it.

    Though as for abilities I am not really sure if we can handle many more skills with how the skill system in this game works (where you will be using almost if not all of your skills that you got). There is already decent skill bloat on some jobs
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  10. #10
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'm personally disappointed that Paladin doesn't take more after Gladiator in terms of style honestly. Where's the arena fights? Where are the cool duels? What do you mean I can't use two swords? The Gld icon has two swords in it for crying out loud! It's misleading. The Gld questline is very satisfying, I admit. But I feel the Pld questline has more potential it could have dug up from its Gld younger brother. What you initially sign up for just doesn't seem to be what you end up with when you're sitting there as a level 60 Pld.

    "[...] there are practicioners who marry sword with shield, seeking to defend their fellow companions. Others opt for an empty off hand, choosing instead to focus entirely on their sword arm. [...]"
    - Gladiator desc. in the Character Creation.

    It's like SE themselves doesn't even know what they want us to be.

    Disclaimer: I absolutely love Paladin, don't get me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Where's my daily baked deliciousness, Toruyna?

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