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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    They had less HP; I also have a ton of experience. Less HP means you had to learn to use your cooldowns more because you had much less soaking and padding to take damage. My tankgained almost 7k more health; which means I don't have to use cool-downs as much anymore.

    Strength tanks were much more skilled then vitality tanks in almost every aspect; since they "HAD" to use cool-downs to survive. I feel like the vitality change lowered the skillcap for tanks.[/I][/B]
    There's a logic fallacy at work here but I can't put my finger on which one. Either way, while gimping your survivability to output max DPS through choice of gear was definitely proper play, it does not follow that it made STR tanks more skilled. Living dangerously kicked ass but it did not make me more skilled, or anybody else. There's also the fact that you're essentially the blessed fucking virgin when it comes to raiding or even midcore content, as you've so proudly proclaimed, so its obvious that you would not know that bosses hit like wet blankets last tier. Seriously, it was sad. There's nothing like tanking the A3S with the HP of an i170 fending tank.

    This also explains why you believe cooldowns are no longer necessary, or less necessary. The change didn't lower the skillcap - it raised it. You still have to maximize DPS in all the ways you did before, shit doesn't hit like an empty bag of doritos, and now you have to pay more attention to enmity and stance dance more efficiently (though this is mostly thanks to content design and not any change to the tanks directly).

    TLDR if you still think the VIT change made tanking current content proportionately easier, you're being willfully ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Are you somehow trying to insinuate that tanks have less of a need to use CDs now that Strength tanking isn't a thing anymore? Because that's not true at all.

    Are you suggesting that higher HP means you have more wiggle room and can be more conservative with your cooldowns? Because that's actually kinda true, though you're not really going to meet that kind of threshold unless you go back 2-3 patches or an expansion.

    Are you suggesting that a more aggressive playstyle that involves stance dancing more frequently will require more heavy cooldown usage to compensate for the lack of passive damage reduction from the tank stance? Because that's also true.

    But if you are in any way insinuating that tanks do not need to use cooldowns in combat, you are incorrect.
    He's still clinging desperately to a now-dated viewpoint about vit vs. str tanking that is officially a dinosaur and never applied to him in the first place because he hasn't participated in any content with anything resembling a tank-buster, and thinks all of that is e-peenery and elitism, but then he goes and tries to throw his non-existent weight around with misinformed and biased opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Uh.. well I am pretty sure every tank i've played in games blah blah other MMOs blah blah
    Is it possible for you to discuss this game without referencing some other MMO?
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 03-24-2016 at 09:15 AM.