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    mugikaze's Avatar
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    Mugikaze Yamiwara
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    The tanks are stuck with the though that "ohh i need to save it for when a big damage is coming or when my HP is low..." but in dungeons the most of the time the trash pulls are doing more damage than the bosses especially in large pulls.
    Also even if they use CDs during pulls most CDs will be ready by the time they get to the boss so it should be that in dungeons the defensive cooldowns should be cycled and in raids and trials they are used strategically.
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by mugikaze View Post
    The tanks are stuck with the though that "ohh i need to save it for when a big damage is coming or when my HP is low..." but in dungeons the most of the time the trash pulls are doing more damage than the bosses especially in large pulls.
    Also even if they use CDs during pulls most CDs will be ready by the time they get to the boss so it should be that in dungeons the defensive cooldowns should be cycled and in raids and trials they are used strategically.
    Bosses in normal dungeons hit like wet noodles if you just opt for tank stance throughout the entirety of the dungeons even without CDs. Likewise if tanks just do small pulls. It really takes more than just playing the tank classes to know when to pop CDs rather than praying that those CDs will be up when you need them. And not everyone likes to talk about strategy because they are just in for their own fun in their own ways. Normally really prevalent in the westerns. Instead of getting better, they flame others because it's way easier or just shun those topics.
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    Faerie
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    Ummmm for the most part defensive buffs are not needed unless a large pull is going on then yeah ok you got a point. Let's be real and honest with ourselves here. Nobody is really playing at their best in a DF low to mid difficulty dungeon. The way we're geared at this point it's expected. And when you're in higher content the challenging one of course it's used when needed. But really use cd on trash mobs just because.....are you saying this for the sake of dps or trying not to max out health? From what I see when I play I don't pop CD unless it's a big pull and when I'm not using cd my healers still manage to play in their dps stances. Like holy shit man cant even enjoy a game without hearing critiques on nonsense.
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    James Dynamite
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RecklessLion View Post
    Ummmm for the most part defensive buffs are not needed unless a large pull is going on then yeah ok you got a point. Let's be real and honest with ourselves here. Nobody is really playing at their best in a DF low to mid difficulty dungeon. The way we're geared at this point it's expected. And when you're in higher content the challenging one of course it's used when needed. But really use cd on trash mobs just because.....are you saying this for the sake of dps or trying not to max out health? From what I see when I play I don't pop CD unless it's a big pull and when I'm not using cd my healers still manage to play in their dps stances. Like holy shit man cant even enjoy a game without hearing critiques on nonsense.
    Without sounding rude, all of what you said is addressed in this thread and has been answered already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    Without sounding rude, all of what you said is addressed in this thread and has been answered already.
    It's all good didn't feel like reading through 17 pages worth of comments so I spoke my mind.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Unfortunately the only CC skills viable are ones used by several bosses and enemies that a player can't use(such as THM/BLM enemies using Breakga but the player gets gimped in the process) or PvP only skills. Or skills like Freeze and Sleep who only have true use in PvP and the occasional Fate.

    Even harder when current mechanics boil down to kill all the things leaving no room for actual crowd control outside say a tank using provoke or a warrior using Holmgang or inflicting heavy on say True Heart.
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    Blackened Tiamat
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Regardless of content, Tanks should be rotating their CDs throughout the entirety of a fight. This is the main difference between a good tank, and a bad one.
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