4.0 Swimming

**Warlyx** · 03-23-2016 07:26 AM

ffxi "sea" theme was cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9rnXEM9kQ

thats the close thing we got as "undersea" in FFXI outside alzadaal undersea ruins (Rupture FFXI version :P)

**Frederick22** · 03-23-2016 11:38 AM

How exacly are we going to have an expansion with the swiming theme if is more than obious that we going to Ala Mhigo now?
Its not a place like the big lakes.

**Colorful** · 03-23-2016 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Frederick22

How exacly are we going to have an expansion with the swiming theme if is more than obious that we going to Ala Mhigo now?
Its not a place like the big lakes.

It's not like every area will be a desert, I'd imagine we'd get a lot of variety just like with Heavensward. It doesn't have to be a theme where the maps revolve around it such as flying, just an addition.

**AlphaFox** · 03-23-2016 12:15 PM

I wouldn't argue with swimming. Sure we can fly but if we have underwater cities, caves or dungeons those flying mounts won't do much good. Plus it kinda makes sense in a way that we had land first, air this expansion, sea does seem like the next possible spot to go. Would also open up the idea of Blitzball they were talking about at one point.

**Wadoka** · 03-23-2016 01:00 PM

Wildstar does swimming pretty well. I don't play there any more but I remember the pleasant thrill when I realized the rivers and streams had currents, and diving down, and around, underwater exploring and questing. It was coolness. And a great use of my swimwear

But... what we really need... is AERIAL COMBAT!

Fat Chocobos diving out of the sun, PEW PEW PEW, dawn patrol, and your Midgardsormr going down in flames!

**Ultimatecalibur** · 03-23-2016 01:11 PM

Currently the main reason we can not fly in the ARR zones is because the zones are not designed to be flown around in. If they add swimming I hope they use it as an excuse to update the ARR zones to allow for both swimming and flying.

If swimming is added I fully expect it to be linked with Oxyale.

**Yhisa** · 03-23-2016 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jpec07

*has flashbacks to Vashj'ir*

OHGODNO

I had this flash back too.... Even gw2 D:

Tbh i dont think swiming will be a thing... It be fun for the first week or month then instantly die afterwards

Look at warcraft when they made Vashj'ir zone... It was the most hated zone in cata... If it was not for the seahorse mount u get from the rare persidon mob.. No one would visit the zone lol

Its a fun idea when thinking about it... But putting it into play is entirely different and require a lot of resource to make it work and even then it be wasted work

Like flying now. Its ok but players use it to get around quickly for fates, hunts, gathering, leveling.... When max level.. Majority of player stay @ idyshire, fc house, lominsa

**Yhisa** · 03-23-2016 01:33 PM

Unless players wanna go back to the blitzball swimming around >.>

The problem with mmos is that they try to do the impossible... But us players only care for the Loot... Story...pvp... Raids...

Exploration is only good when leveling up... After the grind it die out pretty fast so u can make a world thats underwater... Or go to the moon etc... True fact is that u will play it once do everything in said zone... Then never visit it again unless u are forced to by a Quest/fate/hunt/beast tribe/gathering

If MMO's actually made area's more fun like for example have snow boarding in corthas... Dirt bikes in thanalan.....jet ski in costa de sol etc etc etc

Make every zone more interactical and fun.. Have races, and mini games through out the land of eorzea...

**Shurrikhan** · 03-23-2016 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Kallera

then it isn't exactly swimming then, is it?

Wait, what? It's underwater, so there will be swimming. Just not asking for filler lakes or sealion form / water mounts that move as fast or faster than land mounts here.

Originally Posted by Wadoka

Wildstar does swimming pretty well. I don't play there any more but I remember the pleasant thrill when I realized the rivers and streams had currents, and diving down, and around, underwater exploring and questing. It was coolness. And a great use of my swimwear

But... what we really need... is AERIAL COMBAT!

Fat Chocobos diving out of the sun, PEW PEW PEW, dawn patrol, and your Midgardsormr going down in flames!

I'd love (aerial) dog-fighting... if we can have some decent flight physics first.

**Valtiel13** · 03-23-2016 05:28 PM

Given that swimming in games is typically something people find frustrating I understand people's hesitation for it to be added, but I do think some are being overly pessimistic. Yes, they would have to be mindful to not make it a chore or frustrating, but I think an expansion involving the sea could be interesting. Here's where I think the story could naturally go:

4.0 will involve a refocusing of efforts to push back against the Empire. Maybe a 2nd Autumn War of sorts that the Emperor initiates near the end of the 3.0 storyline. We will explore the Xelphatol and Gyn Abania regions with a concentrated effort to win back control of Ala Mhigo from the Garleans. This could be something that happens over the course of the expansion instead of us just wandering into the city and picking up quests. Ultimately the freeing of Ala Mhigo will provoke the Empire in some substantial way (Ala Mhigo is nuked to dust instead of ever becoming a capitol?) that forces us to invade Garlemald in either the 4.0 storyline or potentially as the main story in 5.0.

Where I think the sea will come into play will be in allowing us to traverse water in multiple ways. The first being the most obvious: swimming. Being able to swim through bodies of water can open up new exploration opportunities. Flying will still be useful but isn't going to help when we need to jump into the lake and swim through the caverns to reach our destination. I think there is a place for both flying and swimming, and neither has to be gratuitously used to be considered a worthwhile addition.

The second way the sea could be included is the use of ships and submarines. There could even be a meaningful difference between the two vessel types if it was fun content (exploring the surface vs exploring the deep sea). This could open up exploration into the Sea of Jade and some of the islands east of the Black Shroud. Perhaps our push into Garlemald requires us to initially invade by sea to cripple their defenses enough to allow land and air attacks? And certainly there's a version of Fisherman's Horizon we have yet to discover. Rumor is they've invented this amazing device called a tackle box....

The third, and what would certainly be my least desirable way to play in the water, would be Blitzball located in the water park addition at the Gold Saucer. It's not my favorite mini-game in the series, but if they had a good idea for it, then why not? The best swim trunks require mats from the fourth floor of whatever savage raid they start with so good luck with that.

Or maybe none of that will happen and we'll just have to take the ferry over to Doma to learn our Samurai job.

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