Please reconsider RNG system (Dev Request)

[Rebellius555]

For a while now I keep observing current rng system and the way its unfair for the most of the players.

After farming A7 for a single Median Spring about 22 times now my rolls were (in order): 1 , 8, 8, 11, 33, 4, 14, 52, 9... then I just lost it and stopped counting, because all the numbers were below 60. It's not just Alexander Midan, but all the primals and their loot as well. I run Ravana Extreme for at least 610 times now and everytime the lanner drops, I lose it by rolling below 40.

It might seem funny, but I even had this brief thought about being "cursed" by some developer who doesn't like the look of my character or something, because it's just unbelievable how unlucky can one get. It also made me want to quit the game entirely, as climbing the same mountain for hundreds of times knowing that you will slide off it anyway is very discouraging.

So pretty please with sugar on top, lift my curse or consider re-designing it.

[worldofneil]

Sorry to hear about your bad rolls, but random is random. There's nothing they can do to change it as then it wouldn't be random... (and if they did, what about the other 7 people and their rolls?)

[Kaurie]

There's nothing they can do to change it as then it wouldn't be random... (and if they did, what about the other 7 people and their rolls?)

They can change it to not be random - or have fail safes. Someone, for example, suggested that 99 totems that drop anyway (currently used for weapons) can be used to purchase the whistle.

[Rebellius555]

They can change it to not be random - or have fail safes. Someone, for example, suggested that 99 totems that drop anyway (currently used for weapons) can be used to purchase the whistle.

This is what I wanted to refer to, but the character limit wouldn't let me. Well, they managed to do something like that for Savage already. You either get your drop or a page which you can later trade for your desired item.

I also spotted something weird in all this. Ever noticed someone always rolls above 90 for a primal mount? I have not seen a single person winning it with 72 or 85 for example. Another thing is that I never ever actually seen someone rolling a perfect 100.

[Kaurie]

This is what I wanted to refer to, but the character limit wouldn't let me. Well, they managed to do something like that for Savage already. You either get your drop or a page which you can later trade for your desired item.

I also spotted something weird in all this. Ever noticed someone always rolls above 90 for a primal mount? I have not seen a single person winning it with 72 or 85 for example. Another thing is that I never ever actually seen someone rolling a perfect 100.

I believe the first mount I've ever won was with a 27. I think it's just statistics though. Chances are 1 in 10 that a person will roll between 90 and 100, and there are 8 people rolling. I don't feel like doing the maths, but that seems like decent odds that someone will roll above 90.

[PirateCat]

I believe the first mount I've ever won was with a 27. I think it's just statistics though. Chances are 1 in 10 that a person will roll between 90 and 100, and there are 8 people rolling. I don't feel like doing the maths, but that seems like decent odds that someone will roll above 90.

Any given player has a 10/99 chance of rolling a 90 or higher (since 100 and 0 aren't possible results for a need/greed roll.) The odds of at least one person rolling 90 or more are the inverse of the odds that no one rolls that high. 1 - (89/99)^8 = roughly a 57.3% chance that at least one person rolls 90 or higher if everyone rolls for it. The probability increases slightly if multiple people can't roll the same value.

So it's fairly common for someone to roll 90 or more. If it happens every time then that's possibly a bit suspect, but anecdotal reports of this could be attributable to small sample size and/or confirmation bias.

[Jamillion]

This is what I wanted to refer to, but the character limit wouldn't let me. Well, they managed to do something like that for Savage already. You either get your drop or a page which you can later trade for your desired item.

I also spotted something weird in all this. Ever noticed someone always rolls above 90 for a primal mount? I have not seen a single person winning it with 72 or 85 for example. Another thing is that I never ever actually seen someone rolling a perfect 100.

You can't roll 100, it only goes from 1-99 (with 0 being reserved for passes.)

[MrPresident]

This is what I wanted to refer to, but the character limit wouldn't let me. Well, they managed to do something like that for Savage already. You either get your drop or a page which you can later trade for your desired item.

I also spotted something weird in all this. Ever noticed someone always rolls above 90 for a primal mount? I have not seen a single person winning it with 72 or 85 for example. Another thing is that I never ever actually seen someone rolling a perfect 100.

I won a Rose Lanner with a 79, and saw someone before that win with 59.

[Kurogaea]

Sorry to hear about your bad rolls, but random is random. There's nothing they can do to change it as then it wouldn't be random... (and if they did, what about the other 7 people and their rolls?)

Consolation for participation. Run it 10 times (without achieving your weekly item drop) to get items called scraps to trade in for a specific drop you want. Maybe scrap pieces of midas 1-4 for a gobbie who happens to find these weekly drops on his excavations. grinding for scraps will be halted after achieving the max number of 10 scraps or attaining the daily part from the 1 floor. No reason to not have it this way to begin with actually. -_-

[worldofneil]

No reason to not have it this way to begin with actually. -_-

Right now for for items that drop 100% (or very frequently) you have a chance of getting what you want on the first run. But if they change things to always use a token system, people will be forced to run that content X times to get the same item. We're all unlucky with some drops, but at the same time I'm sure we've also all got something on our first try as well... do you really want to lose that chance?

Yes they could make it so you get the drop randomly OR after X runs, but SE are not going to want to do that, they want people to keep running the content (partly to stop people complaining about slow duty finder/no one running it, but also because they want people to be have a reason to stay subscribed/something to do).

Sure it'd be nice if the drop rates were higher, but where would the fun be if we got everything in a few weeks?