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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Angeles View Post
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    Probably gonna get lynched for saying this, but I used to play WoW (an many other mmos like Guild Wars, SWTOR etc.) for a couple of years and no one E.V.E.R complained about loot system there. I don't remember running one dungeon for 20 or even 10 times to get my stuff. The RNG system here is absurd and many people will agree on that. To me it looks like SE developers desperately want to hold us in the game by making you grind for pretty much everything.

    200+ runs for a mount is nothing, especially if you farmed every primal. If you did about 675 runs for Ravana mount only like myself and lost it 14 times you would most likely smack your screen with a hammer or quit the game completely. Also, it is not a "rig the loot system for only me" but for thousands of people who struggle and spend hundreds of hours to get only one piece of loot that will eventually get replaced in a week or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebellius555 View Post
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    No, I wouldn't. Because I'm not entitled. You realize you have the freedom to run, or not run, whatever you want. If other MMO's loot systems are so much better and this one makes you want to break your computer screen, go there and stop whining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Angeles View Post
    No, I wouldn't. Because I'm not entitled. You realize you have the freedom to run, or not run, whatever you want. If other MMO's loot systems are so much better and this one makes you want to break your computer screen, go there and stop whining.
    First of all, I'm at the stage where all I can do is either running Savage (which is something impossible to do on my server) or farming for useless stuff like primal birds. So yeah there is no "freedom to run, or not run" for me.

    If you came here just to tell people that RNG works in your favor and everyone else is a loser, then please leave this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Angeles View Post
    No, I wouldn't. Because I'm not entitled.
    The moment people start to throw the word "entitled" around, I like to just shut my brain off because everything else they say is gonna be derogative with lots of thinly veiled insults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebellius555 View Post
    Probably gonna get lynched for saying this, but I used to play WoW (an many other mmos like Guild Wars, SWTOR etc.) for a couple of years and no one E.V.E.R complained about loot system there. I don't remember running one dungeon for 20 or even 10 times to get my stuff. The RNG system here is absurd and many people will agree on that. To me it looks like SE developers desperately want to hold us in the game by making you grind for pretty much everything.

    200+ runs for a mount is nothing, especially if you farmed every primal. If you did about 675 runs for Ravana mount only like myself and lost it 14 times you would most likely smack your screen with a hammer or quit the game completely. Also, it is not a "rig the loot system for only me" but for thousands of people who struggle and spend hundreds of hours to get only one piece of loot that will eventually get replaced in a week or two.
    This is because most Western MMOs, like WoW and City of Heroes/Villains, have a failsafe which increases the chance of something good happening based on the number of times that something good didn't happen within a set period of time. Basically, when you have 5,000 players on a server, the likelihood of one player faiiling several times in a row at 90% is very high. Smart games tune the system so that after a set number of failures, you're guarranteed an auto-success.

    FFXIV has no fail safe. That's why we see complaint threads about people failing 95% chances 10+ times in a row, or failing to get items after hundreds of attempts. SE cold fix this, but they feel it's workign as intended. This is technically true, but not necessarily good for player morale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Angeles View Post
    No, I wouldn't. Because I'm not entitled. You realize you have the freedom to run, or not run, whatever you want. If other MMO's loot systems are so much better and this one makes you want to break your computer screen, go there and stop whining.
    That's a very closed minded thing to say, many games that I have played have had to alter the way they handle loot drops. Diablo 3, Borderlands and even the brief moment I played Destiny. Now from what I'm hearing The Division also has had loot drop fixes. This game is one of the very few that force players into constantly running content in hopes for items, did you know there is a Wind up Enchida minion? Neither did I until last night when I seen it drop for the first time in 100 runs of Void Ark. We had to wait months for them to fix nonroll loot like Atma and Alexandrite, but rollable loot is still following the same format it did back in 2.0 and maybe even 1.0 despite a vast majority of the game getting overhauls in many different areas.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 03-26-2016 at 01:04 AM.

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    Or, you know... For the birds... Just wait for the drop rate to be increased to same level as the ponies.
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