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    Xenon_S's Avatar
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    Xenon Shinkiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    You can't use damage numbers to compare, you have to use potencies.

    Please trust us, your way is far worse.
    I'm not sure whether I should face palm at the fact that he only used one sample for testing, or at the fact that he used VA as part of argument, or the fact his AE only did 1.6k damage.

    Maybe I should at all 3, but wait I only have 2 hands, friend you will have to lend me a hand for the extra facepalm

    Quote Originally Posted by Malicewolf View Post
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    You aren't getting it quite right
    The calculation is for comparing attacks done WITHIN the trick attack window
    I repeat, strictly comparing the potency of attacks done during trick attack
    Your SF and MU were not used during the TA window, and hence should not be added to your total damage count within TA

    You did 7843 damage within your TA, while with the standard way, it does 9495

    You cannot add the dot ticks to your damage because they are not used during your TA
    You are saying the damage from 7 attacks is more than the damage from 5 attacks

    Now that's out of the way hopefully

    Mug is a 150 potency attack
    Your own SE did 796 damage, round it up to 800 for sanity's sake
    Mug steals 50%damage dealt as hp, effectively healing you for 400
    And it's not on demand healing, it's an offensive skill that you hit every 90s
    Healers are not accounting for the fact that you get 400 hp back per 90s

    Meanwhile second wind is useful because it can be timed and used on demand
    I cannot count enough times where it saved me in thordan extreme for holiest of holy, or when in kotr 3 where I get targeted for tether and the blue jump is dangerously close to me

    As for overusing stun
    VA is a bad example because you shouldn't expect coordination in content that does not require thinking effort
    And most of the time it's the mnk and drg with their shoulder tackle/steel peak/leg sweep/ spineshatter dive that preemptively stuns things
    Is it annoying? Yea.
    Did it wipe the raid? Most likely no, so stop worrying and move on.
    If you know you need a stun, get into wasp before hand and hold off on the Jugulate
    Is it worth switching back and forth between venoms mid fight? No.


    One last thing
    We are picking apart your threads and countering it, yes.
    But we are not doing it because we dislike you or purely out of spite.
    We are ninja mains. We gear it with the latest gear, bring it to the extreme and savage difficulty contents, and study it's skills and rotations in fine details so we can output optimum dps given the situation.
    We clicked on this thread because we believe our knowledge of the class can be of help to people who are not as experienced.
    We want players to be better, and hence when we see misinformation, we want to correct it.

    That's all
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    Last edited by Xenon_S; 03-29-2016 at 01:41 AM.