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    Player
    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
    Dont need to set prices or anything like that, repair money is pocket change.
    If SE were to allow other players to repair gear, they would need to set a price and it would need to be higher than a repair NPC. Otherwise people would just intentionally not repair their gear so someone else in the dungeon could repair it for them. Even if they weren't trying to dodge the cost it would also promote an more of an assumption that "someone will be able to repair it" and would cause problems if there wasn't.

    Realistically that money would have to go to the player doing the repair because although the repair items are relatively cheap, it's still a little extra hassle at having to go and top them up again faster than you would normally.

    Regarding the topic itself though, personally I think that's just a lot of extra work for SE to implement it when people simply need to just learn to check their own gear and if they don't want to do that, level their crafters, it's not hard. I've got my main and first alt character to 60 on all the crafts and a second alt character is around the 40's and going up still. It's just not that difficult.
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    Xhieron's Avatar
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    Worshipful Tyrant
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    Ultros
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
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    On a side note, this is still a personal mistake. This is not SEs fault. This is yours. If your gear is broken then it is your choices that led to it. Take some responsibility. ...
    You know what? You're right! It is my fault if my gear breaks in duty, and I'm taking responsibility! It's my fault, and I should be accountable! But just for fun, let's punish everyone. Here's what happens: I'm just going to hang my head in shame and leave the duty--which I guess is what you think is fair. I'll go play cards for half an hour and then instantly requeue. Meanwhile the poor DPS might have had to abandon the duty outright. Hope they didn't wait for a replacement for too long before giving up, because they've still got a queue to sit through also. With any luck I'll still finish the duty before they do.

    So yeah: totally my fault, my responsibility. Great outcome, right?
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    Maple Taffy
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I quite like current system but it would be even better with bit of enhancement. I have all of DoH/DoL maxed but it would be nice if I can repair for member in the same dungeon or instance. You can be a hero for that moment and you don't have to abandon the party just because you have a tank/healer/dps with broken weapon/armour.
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I'm really tired of having to abandon dungeons because I forget to repair, and having the same thing happen with other people.
    Always check your gear before queuing for anything. Mistakes happen and you learn from them.
    It is your fault and not the games' fault if you don't repair your gear.

    Lets say your gear is at 0% and the repair NPC is far away. How would you handle this situation?
    If he is at the entrance then this means you either run back or kill yourself and return to the starting point.

    Are you going to repair as soon as you enter? Why not do it while waiting for queue to pop?
    This is so unnecessary. It just makes player more carefree (In a bad way).
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Just increase the price of the repair to triple the current cost if it's broken. People will soon remember to repair then.
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    Daiki Kiyoshi
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Other than "Bu-bu-but!!! It promotes laziness!!! I am triggered!!!" does anyone actually have a good reason to NOT add this? What does it harm and who does it hurt? Can't be making DoH any less relevant. People claim it will because people no longer have to level crafters to repair their gear. News flash, they already aren't and don't have to or else this wouldn't even be a suggestion. Waste of dev resources? Barely. Not very hard to add an npc to somewhere. They do it all the time for events. "BUT THE LORE!!" If so called lore is standing in the way of potential improvements to the game I think it's fairly self evident that the lore is the problem rather than a QoL improvement such as this.
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    Other than "Bu-bu-but!!! It promotes laziness!!! I am triggered!!!" does anyone actually have a good reason to NOT add this? What does it harm and who does it hurt? Can't be making DoH any less relevant. People claim it will because people no longer have to level crafters to repair their gear. News flash, they already aren't and don't have to or else this wouldn't even be a suggestion. Waste of dev resources? Barely. Not very hard to add an npc to somewhere. They do it all the time for events. "BUT THE LORE!!" If so called lore is standing in the way of potential improvements to the game I think it's fairly self evident that the lore is the problem rather than a QoL improvement such as this.
    I think promoting laziness is a good reason. The player base is bad enough. Don't give more excuses to be lazy. What's next, asking for food vendors in raids? I can't be bothered to remember to bring food. Please make it available inside.
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    Astyrah Varis
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    Masamune
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    Bard Lv 90
    didn't read everything but imo, a repair npc inside dungeons isn't needed. it will only remove one of the reasons to level crafters (even if you don't craft or plan to -> you can level them all up slowly with GC turn ins).

    it's just like going out on a trip and forgetting your cellphone charger. either you go out of your way and go back home to grab it OR you go out of your way and buy one from a store wherever, either way you had to go out and get one.

    with durability ingame, you either make sure you repair before entering instance dungeons/raid or you have g6 material and self-repair as needed - otherwise you have to exit the instance to repair (if you manage to bring everything to 0%) or suck it up and use lower ilvl gear that you happen to have on hand or something.
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    Firis Mistlud
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    How can I lie about having broken gear if I get queued into aurum vale?
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    Skotyrfedar Dzemael
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm slowly levelling all my DoH right now and thoroughly enjoying it and the ability to fix my own stuff if I so need to, but even with that said--
    I'm just always in a habit of ensuring I repair before every x number of queued instances, and logging out with fully repaired gear, since I began playing.

    It's not hard to keep your gear in check. Queuing in with gear in the red or even halfway through is a risk you take on yourself.
    Tending good habits will outweigh forgetfulness 99% of the time, and this is coming from someone with a short-term memory that is officially horrendous.
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