Repair NPCs in Dungeons

[Adire]

Comparing "Blind person deserves to be hit by a car" is like comparing apples to oranges. That doesn't even work. That doesn't even make sense to compare.

Blind people can't help themselves to be blind, no one's going to hold them at fault for something that they can't help. Blind is a disability, failure to repair your gears, however, is not.

You can, however, can help yourself to check to make sure that your gears are repaired before you go in.

Actually, it is a good comparison. Because being blind is not a conscious choice, and forgetting or being a forgetful person is not a conscious choice. There are actually many reasons and many actual disabilities that can cause people can have memory problems, and those reasons are never conscious choices to have it.

How is the Lightning lore surprising to you? The whole storyline is based on "lifestream" and "aether," is it really that surprising that a character managed to travel through that? Not to mention it was quite obviously a promotional event and had to somehow be linked with FFXIV. Flying turtles also have absolutely nothing to do with it unless you can find me a source of why this counteracts Eorzean lore.

Some dungeons are supposedly "abandoned" or "we're the only adventurers strong enough/brave enough to go into." Can you imagine a traveling merchant sitting at the entrance of Bahamut? It just doesn't work.

That's the thing, it's not surprising to me. There are very off the wall things going on in this game. That's why something as practical as an NPC going into a dungeon is completely believable.

"Abandoned" means no one lives in them pretty much. It does not mean expeditions do not happen into them. Also, merchants =/= adventurers, so they would not apply to this "we're the only adventurers strong enough" thing. I don't recall seeing anywhere that says there's absolutely no way anyone but the WoL can get into most dungeons anyways.

Someone posted a collection of dungeons and explanations for how NPCs could fit into them a few pages, assuming the idea of NPCs tagging along with a party of borderline immortals truly is too much for lore enthusiasts to bear.

[WinterLuna]

Actually, it is a good comparison. Because being blind is not a conscious choice, and forgetting or being a forgetful person is not a conscious choice. There are actually many reasons and many actual disabilities that can cause people can have memory problems, and those reasons are never conscious choices to have it.

Comparing people with disabilities to you not remembering to check your gear on an online game is very rude and unnecessary.

[Suirieko]

Actually, it is a good comparison. Because being blind is not a conscious choice, and forgetting or being a forgetful person is not a conscious choice. There are actually many reasons and many actual disabilities that can cause people can have memory problems, and those reasons are never conscious choices to have it.

Uh.... Being blind gives you severe limitations, even in life.

However, repairing your gears, (or failure to do so) is not even a handicap, and there's many ways to fix it, such as (but not limited to): Post it notes, electronic reminders (Cellphone, computer, smartwatch, etc.). Having your friends remind you. Or level all crafts to 50. YES 50, NOT 60! It's not even THAT hard (or expensive) at this point in the game.

Point is, this is an unnecessary change, and I'd rather SE spend time fixing more urgent issue, than cater to people that can't be bothered to spend a few seconds to repair their gears before dungeons.

Repair NPC in dungeons is not an urgent issue.

Allowing players to meld any gears they want regardless of craft levels is not an urgent issue.



...And for god's sakes, You're still comparing blind people to an in-game issue? That's just incredibly rude of you and I'm almost offended because I 'm actually deaf.

[WinterLuna]

Someone posted a collection of dungeons and explanations for how NPCs could fit into them a few pages, assuming the idea of NPCs tagging along with a party of borderline immortals truly is too much for lore enthusiasts to bear.

Again, imagine one of these NPC's in T13? Where would it even go? On a platform SE would have to create and insert into an already implemented dungeon?

And again, stop using disabilities as an excuse to enforce your argument. If a disability causes someone to forget to repair their gear that much that they need a mender inside a dungeon, how are they going to remember fights in the first place? Unless they have some sort of selective memory?

[Jynx]

Hopefully one day I'll forget to repair and end up tanking for you.

This just reflects on you as a responsible player than anything else. But yeah stick it to the man!

[Suirieko]

Hopefully one day I'll forget to repair and end up tanking for you, or someone else will, when you don't have a replacement to call in.

Wow. Purposely act irresponsible and become a burden to the entire party just to spite me? That really shows a lot about you.

[WinterLuna]

I think this is a rather pointless request when you can simply repair your gear before you queue for a dungeon. It's really not difficult to quickly check. You are asking SE to do a lot of work for something very trivial and easily solvable.

As said multiple times, you can also already repair your gear inside a dungeon. If you don't want to level the crafter classes or carry the matter, that's nobody else's fault but your own.

The lore argument is also very true and your response isn't really a solution. This would mean SE would have to design an NPC to fit into every single dungeon. A traveller mender simply wouldn't fit into a lot of the dungeons lore wise.

[Adire]

I think this is a rather pointless request when you can simply repair your gear before you queue for a dungeon. It's really not difficult to quickly check. You are asking SE to do a lot of work for something very trivial and easily solvable.

As said multiple times, you can also already repair your gear inside a dungeon. If you don't want to level the crafter classes or carry the matter, that's nobody else's fault but your own.

The lore argument is also very true and your response isn't really a solution. This would mean SE would have to design an NPC to fit into every single dungeon. A traveller mender simply wouldn't fit into a lot of the dungeons lore wise.

It's difficult if you don't think about it. For example, you log out, go to work the next day, and come home and queue after a long day only to find out your gear is about to break upon entering while you gave it no thought because you had no conscious or subconscious urge to.

And a lot of work? Really? Tossing already existing code into already existing dungeons is a lot of work?

The lore argument is BS. We have a lot more crazy things going around in the game now. Flying turtles, FF13 characters, etc. Random generic traveling mender NPCs with guards sitting at the entrance would work just fine. Unless you can explain how exactly that violates the lore bible, while flying turtles and dimension traveling FF13 characters don't?

[WinterLuna]

The lore argument is BS. We have a lot more crazy things going around in the game now. Flying turtles, FF13 characters, etc. Random generic traveling mender NPCs with guards sitting at the entrance would work just fine. Unless you can explain how exactly that violates the lore bible, while flying turtles and dimension traveling FF13 characters don't?

How is the Lightning lore surprising to you? The whole storyline is based on "lifestream" and "aether," is it really that surprising that a character managed to travel through that? Not to mention it was quite obviously a promotional event and had to somehow be linked with FFXIV. Flying turtles also have absolutely nothing to do with it unless you can find me a source of why this counteracts Eorzean lore.

Some dungeons are supposedly "abandoned" or "we're the only adventurers strong enough/brave enough to go into." Can you imagine a traveling merchant sitting at the entrance of Bahamut? It just doesn't work.

[Felis]

It's difficult if you don't think about it. For example, you log out, go to work the next day, and come home and queue after a long day only to find out your gear is about to break upon entering while you gave it no thought because you had no conscious or subconscious urge to.

And a lot of work? Really? Tossing already existing code into already existing dungeons is a lot of work?

Ask the devs to bring back the feature to repair other players gear
Problem solved without repair NPCs