Bard in the party... thoughts?

[RiceisNice]

like I said, it's a suggestion (my mistake on the Drg combo potency)

'Most?' maybe. But not every group does and Bard needs something for itself when a Drg isn't present (my static is with Mnk and Nin as the melee atm). That's why I said either the piercing debuff or adjusting Foe's to properly affect Windbite and Flaming Arrow.

It's the same principle for when MCH doesn't have a DRG in the party. It's silly to say a MCH is doing more damage than BRD because they can "buff" their own damage with hypercharge; That makes just as contextual sense as a DRG buffing his own damage with disembowel, or a MNK buffing his own damage with dragon kick.

Beyond people showing logs which have been either padded or skewed through faster clear times (and I'm talking an entire minute at the minimum), there's no solid fact that MCH is blowing BRD out of the water as far as dps is concerend. The two, when compared to each other, are relatively close to each other, before and after 3.1 when they had buffed mch (whom at the time had consistently lower personal dps than BRD in the same circumstances)