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    TeriCoCo's Avatar
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    Teri Coco
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    Promotion... Really!?

    Is this serious, you ripped a league system straight out of a MOBA put it in an MMO's PVP and just straight have no hidden MMR system behind it. Thanks a lot for my promotion to Silver I have a guy who just got his "my first time pvping achievement"

    No wonder the queues are going up to 5-10mins no one wants to put up with this.
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    Player
    xxczx's Avatar
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    Feb 2015
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Dark Falz
    World
    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    sorry didn't realise rating systems are exclusive to MOBAs.
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    Red_Wolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Quentin Hood
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    sorry didn't realise rating systems are exclusive to MOBAs.
    I know right? Kids these days...
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 86
    Heck most people don't even realize that almost all modern game rating systems are based on chess rating systems.
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  5. #5
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TeriCoCo View Post
    Is this serious, you ripped a league system straight out of a MOBA put it in an MMO's PVP and just straight have no hidden MMR system behind it. Thanks a lot for my promotion to Silver I have a guy who just got his "my first time pvping achievement"

    No wonder the queues are going up to 5-10mins no one wants to put up with this.
    Too many acronyms x.x
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    Ciri_Wolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Cat Mommy
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 90
    League's mmr system is pretty shit anyway.
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  7. #7
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    LunnaRavenheart's Avatar
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    Lunna Ravenheart
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    The problem is that there is a huge skill gap between regular bronze and silver. 90% of active pvp player base are sitting on bronze. Solo 4v4 should be adjusted more to spread people around ranks. No point we have 5 ranks if 90% is bronze. +25/-25 should be fine for gold rank but for bronze it should be like +25/-10 and +25/-15 for silver.
    I dont know why they change points needed for next rank but in fact there is problem with win/loose ration which should be adjusted for lower ranks not the points which player need to obtain.
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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunnaRavenheart View Post
    The problem is that there is a huge skill gap between regular bronze and silver. 90% of active pvp player base are sitting on bronze. Solo 4v4 should be adjusted more to spread people around ranks. No point we have 5 ranks if 90% is bronze.
    How can this possibly still be a problem now? It's absurdly easy to reach silver compared to pre-patch. The only reason I would figure there aren't more silver atm is because the ranks are gonna reset yet again next week so grinding them out right now is absolutely pointless beyond just enjoying the mode.
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  9. #9
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    Blitzace's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Blitz Ace
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I've played some games with ratings to rank up. CSGO & Rainbow six siege, CSGO - Global Elite Solo queue'd R6 Platinum something.

    But this game? Even if its not even comparable for the love of god i cannot get to silver.
    And often its due the game design, It will not let you carry a bad person. If you have one bad player in your team, If the other team does not, You will die so quickly.
    The solo queue is not based on skill, It is purely based on RNG wether you will get a group that can somewhat make a decission to attack the healer that has 20% HP left instead of the tank that has zero stacks with 85% HP left.
    Or that will not run into the enemy while you're winning and the one person that runs in the last 15 seconds with 9 stacks, to instantly die and lose the match.
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  10. #10
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    Jubez187's Avatar
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    Character
    Arant Aleite
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    My only problem really is that it's a pretty straight up +25 for a win and -25 for a loss. This makes the grind so horrendously long and to get to your "true elo." So everyone is clumped together for so long. I have a 66% winrate with 50 games played (just got to silver). If you ever had that in League you'd be at least plat or diamond after 50 games. Most challenger players have like 52% winrate but over 1000 games. 99% of the population is unranked or bronze because the grind to get out is crazy.
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