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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    Lightspeed would still be up for 2-3 casts of gravity, which means its not worth it. No point cutting your dps by 25% .
    Considering OGDC abilities as 1sec cast because you would use OGCD after OGCD and they have their own animation, you would have Synastry > Lightspeed (10sec effect) > Asp.Bene (2,5sec CD) > Asp.Helios (2,5 sec CD) > CU (1~3sec depending on server tick) > Time Dilation (1sec) > CO (1sec) > Cleric Stance (1sec) > Gravity (3sec) > SwiftCast > Gravity > Gravity

    If you're "lucky" to get CU granting it's buff in 1 sec, you would only have the Lightspeed debuff for your first Gravity. Considering the massive healing power you're using, I wouldn't mind waiting 3sec with CU active to start casting Gravity with full power.

    And considering I don't do savage content, I don' ever felt the need to do such a rehearsed combo, but I guess it would generate so much hate that you should use LA just after Lightspeed, giving you an extra second to cast your Gravities...
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    Last edited by Roxas_Andrade; 03-23-2016 at 05:11 AM.
    Want a heal? How much money you got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade View Post
    Considering OGDC abilities as 1sec cast because you would use OGCD after OGCD and they have their own animation, you would have Synastry > Lightspeed (10sec effect) > Asp.Bene (2,5sec CD) > Asp.Helios (2,5 sec CD) > CU (1~3sec depending on server tick) > Time Dilation (1sec) > CO (1sec) > Cleric Stance (1sec) > Gravity (3sec) > SwiftCast > Gravity > Gravity

    If you're "lucky" to get CU granting it's buff in 1 sec, you would only have the Lightspeed debuff for your first Gravity. Considering the massive healing power you're using, I wouldn't mind waiting 3sec with CU active to start casting Gravity with full power.

    And considering I don't do savage content, I don' ever felt the need to do such a rehearsed combo, but I guess it would generate so much hate that you should use LA just after Lightspeed, giving you an extra second to cast your Gravities...
    Just to point out you suggested replacing lightspeed for swiftcast in the example of Synestry>A.Benefic>Swiftcast>A.Helios>Collective Unconsciousness>Cleric Stance>Gravity spam.

    A.Helios goes straight into CU. Say full 3 secs to get Wheel of Fate up, still leaves 5-6 secs of Lightspeed being up when you start to dps.
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    Collective Unconsciousness while lightspeed is up? Really?

    Disregarding the credibility or plausibility whether that whole order of yours is good or not, you can at least squeeze in the oGCD abilities better with, for example: Gravity -> Time Dilation -> Gravity -> Celestial Opposition -> Gravity -> Swiftcast -> Gravity
    No point wasting 0.5-1.0 second with each oGCD while Lightspeed is up
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    I just wanted to point out that we've started arguing optimal action sequences in a thread that began as a pep talk for a new AST. How bout we not scare off any new ASTs who get curious and click on this one, as there are already plenty of scary mathsy optimization threads to be found if people are interested in that side of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    I just wanted to point out that we've started arguing optimal action sequences in a thread that began as a pep talk for a new AST. How bout we not scare off any new ASTs who get curious and click on this one, as there are already plenty of scary mathsy optimization threads to be found if people are interested in that side of things.
    Call it prevention over curing. Would you rather have a new player/healer learn bad habits?

    Edit:
    Actually, thinking back to first post we're not even talking about a new player in it's purest form. Just a player shifting roles. Optimisation shouldn't be alien to him/her
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    Last edited by Lyrica_Ashtine; 03-23-2016 at 01:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    I just wanted to point out that we've started arguing optimal action sequences in a thread that began as a pep talk for a new AST. How bout we not scare off any new ASTs who get curious and click on this one, as there are already plenty of scary mathsy optimization threads to be found if people are interested in that side of things.
    I definitely appreciate that thought. It was initially pretty intimidating reading some of these later posts, but I'm going to have to learn these things anyway, so it's all good!
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Same as darkmoon i would say
    (And that worked well before :P)

    For exemple i do combine synastrie+LA+lightspeed + CO during the tornado phase on sephirot EX
    It become so easy to heal everyone for all the massive damage.
    Plus depending of my tank it allow a quick and huge healing after the tower

    Having a spear right before this combo is really helpful XD

    NEVER tried midas savage because my group don't if they do not have they sephirot weapon...
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