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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Machinist Lv 80

    I'm switching my main to MCH. Please help me to improve my rotation.

    So, I think my first wildfire is too low on damage. Here is a vid of me doing SSS sephirot extreme dummy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI2_qC-4zCo

    Can you guys tell me if there is something wrong with my rotation? My friend parsed 1367 DPS (3 min) on a dummy.

    My ilv is 214 with a 210 weapon.
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    1.
    If you Hypercharge during the prepull like that and then Hot Shot with GB on, you will only get 6 hypercharged shots instead of 7 because you're wasting too much of hypercharge's duration before combat starts. This means you get one weaker shot and lose 3 seconds of uptime on the vulnerability debuff. Why? That's a long story, if you search recent posts on this forum you'll find the explanation.

    2.
    Hot, Pot
    Lead, Reload, Rapid Fire
    Split, Wildfire
    Slug, Ricochet
    Split, Reassemble
    Clean, Quick Reload
    Slug, Gauss Round
    Split, Blank
    Clean, Graze
    Slug,

    That was your opener, there are some unorthodox sequences in it which are causing you to lose DPS overall.

    Rapid Fire is in an odd place. You definitely clip a GCD there because you only have enough time to weave one ogcd after anything you cast with GB on, you can only double weave after instant weaponskills or things you fire with GB off. You did the sensible thing and followed that up with split, slug, split to make the most use of the Rapid Fire charges, but using rapid fire that early means you run into the very awkward situation later on where your 3rd split shot (2nd bold) you have to cast manually which eats up a lot of wildfire time. Although that last slug shot in your opener showed its damage number before wildfire completed, it's very close so I'm quite certain its damage didn't get compiled - so you only got 6 weaponskills instead of 7 to contribute.

    Hot, Hypercharge, Pot (you can't avoid clipping here in this opener)
    Lead, Reload
    Split, Wildfire
    Slug, Gauss Round, Reassemble
    Clean, Quick Reload, Rapid Fire
    Split, Ricochet
    Slug, Head Graze
    Split, Blank
    Clean,
    Slug,

    This is slightly better and what I would do if I were doing an opener like that.

    Now don't pay too much attention to where most of ogcds like quick reload or gauss round or ricochet are. As long as you're not clipping a GCD and you're getting them all inside Wildfire, it's fine and a lot of it comes down to personal preference. What is important is you'll notice that the Rapid Fire and the split, slug, split segment (bold) is in the later half of the opener instead of the start. This is more efficient as that awkward split shot you have to cast manually is now at the start, and everything you cast during Wildfire is instant (which means you can even run around doing mechanics while bursting, an amazing luxury that no other job has).

    3.
    You didn't delay your 2nd Wildfire (and associated cooldowns) by 30 seconds to sync up with your 2nd Hypercharge and 3rd Reload. Maybe you know about it and don't want to 'cheat' - that's fine, after all it's not typical behavior and 3 minute parses are special cases. It's just good to know, since either way you only use them all one more time, you can combine them to make the 2nd Wildfire not so mild - it might come in handy one day during the last 3 minutes of a boss fight.

    4.
    The sequence for your 2nd Wildfire was kind of weird too, it had no ammo so it was just random split and slug shots (that's fine, mildfires have no ammo after all), but the opening of it was a little odd.

    Hot, BFB, Hawk's Eye
    Lead, Wildfire
    Split, Quick Reload
    Split...

    Again you clipped a GCD at the bolded segment because you only have space for one after a Hot Shot you cast with GB up. How to deal with this situation for mid-fight Wildfires (because there's no 'prepull' segment when you're halfway through a fight) is to know ahead of time how many ogcd buffs you plan to cast, and ration them out to use one-by-one, starting to use them even before Hot Shot if you have to (see below). Wildfire after Lead Shot is odd as well, there's no reason you wouldn't want to do it the same way as our opener like normal,

    Whatever last weaponskill you were casting at this point in the fight, BFB
    Hot, Hawk's Eye
    Lead, Quick Reload (can't be helped, no Reload so just use QR here)
    Split, Wildfire
    Slug, mildfire stuff...

    As you can see, it looks a lot like our opener, because it is! An easy way to think about how to structure mid-fight Wildfires is to just treat them as identical to the opener Wildfire but skip over anything that is unavailable. No Reload? Put Quick Reload there instead. Raging Strikes on cooldown? Just do BFB and Hawk's Eye, and skip over it like it doesn't exist. During a mildfire, you managed to cast Clean Shot/you cast Split Shot but no proc? Now's a good time to Rapid Fire because ideally you want to use it to cast Split Shots.

    Our opener Wildfire is structured a certain way because it's efficient and logical to do so - and you want to keep following that structure even for mildfires because the principles still hold true.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 03-19-2016 at 09:35 PM.

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    Thank you for all advice! Dind't knew about the dps loss when using 2 ogcd after a skill with cast time. About the second wildfire, I tried to do the most pure rotation, dindt even thought about the time limit. Ill sure do another vid considering your tips and see what remains to improve. Thanks a lot.
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    Last edited by Inuk9; 03-18-2016 at 08:44 PM.

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    So, I follow your tips and made a new vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGAsZd5g3XA

    I know I messed up in the end but still was a solid run. Can you see it and tell if there is something else wrong with my rotation?
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    Viper Lv 100
    Looks good to me, the opener Wildfire definitely flows much better with that sequence, and you got that last weaponskill in a full second earlier than in the one in the OP. That 8680 Wildfire number (compared to 7799 for the one in the OP) is a very good sign that you've gotten all 7 weaponskills compiled properly.
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