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  1. #1
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    my scholar dps sucks

    we just tried a5s and with 15% or so more percent left on hummel faust (learning party rather than a static) I still could only hit 600 dps rather than the 800-900 dps i'm seeing other scholars/healers do.

    For the record I'm 220 without seph ex weapon (still 210 eso book). I am able to clear SSS a5s dummy, but this really low still and its rather embarrassing. I know to bane both faust and what not, but are there any dps tips so I can stop holding back my teammates? Thanks.

    edit: I guess I also forgot to mention that my accuracy is horribly low and we had another summoner. I don't felt like I missed that much and I usually can tell my dots from others, but idk.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 03-24-2016 at 08:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    edit: I guess I also forgot to mention that my accuracy is horribly low and we had another summoner. I don't felt like I missed that much and I usually can tell my dots from others, but idk.
    Fix your accuracy issues first if you want to improve your DPS. This is the main thing that is going to hold you back.

    Don't forget to keep all your DoTs up, Shadow Flare included, use your Aetherflow stacks on Energy Drain (unless you're helping with healing but this is 100% solo-healable and you won't attain much higher DPS if you're also healing) after the first Bane, eat Selene for 3 more stacks at the end.

    That being said, if you were unable get past 15% at this point it's not specifically you holding back your teammates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrigen View Post
    Fix your accuracy issues first if you want to improve your DPS. This is the main thing that is going to hold you back.

    Don't forget to keep all your DoTs up, Shadow Flare included, use your Aetherflow stacks on Energy Drain (unless you're helping with healing but this is 100% solo-healable and you won't attain much higher DPS if you're also healing) after the first Bane, eat Selene for 3 more stacks at the end.

    That being said, if you were unable get past 15% at this point it's not specifically you holding back your teammates.

    We parsed and I hit 90% of the time (and since half of toolkit is filled with nonmissable spells i'm guessing my broils got the worst of it :/). I knew my accuracy was bad and really unviable at start, but I guess i forgot once I saw my numbers and got into the fight. Thank you.
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    Make sure you use food and save a potion for Hummelfaust if you must. It seems like you're doing everything right if you're keeping your DoTs up and using Broils with Energy Drains weaved in. The general strategy is to save your CDs for Hummelfaust, so I guess be conservative with your AF stacks with the two Fausts and save Dissipation for right at the end when he does the double Panzers.

    For the record your DPS isn't embarrassing. It's not as high as it could be, but you're not holding your teammates back with it. The pressure should be on the actual DPS to do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    The pressure should be on the actual DPS to do better.
    I'm just going to quote this because this is simply the truth. If the group is 15% off like you said. Then there's no way you alone, as a healer can bridge an additional 15% on your own. Heck, not even you with the other healer combined can do an additional 15% damage. Your group will need to do some experimenting on a dummy and maybe find someone who is extremely skilled with a calculator and has can press 15 buttons/second on it *cough*. Reach out to other players who might be able to give you and your group advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
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    Oh i'm not so mad at us not meeting check. I suspected this since I mainly did it just as a test to see where everyone who wanted to raid parsed. But i'm usually pretty harsh on myself regardless even if I know its not my fault haha.

    I really should fix my accuracy though. Just trying to figure out this melding situation is the problem. I'm not the richest guy on the block so i'd have to be broke just settling for 9+ accuracy materia (besides the drops I get from void).

    @Kabzy

    and thanks for advice! I really do need to invest in more food as well. And the dissapations i hadn't thought of.
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    Hammelfaust is a tighter, but more of a more mechanical dps check than A5S/SSS itself. Cooldowns over >60 seconds should absolutely be saved for him, and that includes energy drains. Use the pot when he comes out, and you can also get even more DPS towards enrage with a Dissipate and spitting those extra drains as well. Basically people who dismiss that skill just aren't that good at Scholar DPS in the first place, that is what it comes down to.

    But you really are shooting yourself in the foot in any savage raid going in there without any ACC melds, and without a Seph Ex book where you would gain two slots to meld something like Crit or ACC in as well. Plus Elements book also has bad secondaries. Most Scholar average DPS is 850-900.
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    Last edited by technole; 03-26-2016 at 03:29 AM.

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    Areku Foxfire
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    Don't worry too much about SSS as scholar, it's overtuned for that class.

    It really just comes down to keeping up all dots (including aero and shadowflare) and getting out as many Broils as possible. Energy drain after Bio and Aero is also good, as well as the Dissipation trick.
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    Any SCH main should invest in the healing body. Penta meld with 2 tier 5 accuracy and 3 x tier 4s.
    Then you can just drop in tier 4s on any i220+ pieces. Just grab those from beastman quests.

    The crafted 220 ring is also a great option to add accuracy.
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    Yeah, the i220 Eikon crafted body is really good for SCH, overmelded. One can put some Crit Vs as it's not maxed in Crit base already and/or mix of ACC. Any of the right side i220 crafted should just be ACC overmelds, which is what I had done.

    Regardless, the Song of the Sephirot book, is the biggest upgrade for DPS at this time. Really shouldn't even be in A5S without it.
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