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    Keramory's Avatar
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    Lee Keramory
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 100

    60 miner... HQ or NQ enough?

    I've been reading around and getting mixed messages, so a quick question. I was under the impression that the idea of gatherer gear is to get 60 gear from the market board, then collect red scripts until I get the "end game" gear, which for me would be miner.

    I made the assumption of getting the crafted gear as HQ and melding them. So far I have about half the gear, lacking the MH, OH, body and few accessories. When reading up though, I'm noticing many buy NQ then upgrade to red script gear. And then others say melded HQ is better then even the script... Which I think is great, saves me a lot of effort aside making money to afford the gear.

    Can I get some opinions on what to do? Thank you
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Depends on what you want and how fast... if you want to be able to mine HQ sooner, get HQ gear sooner.

    If you like melding and don't want to worry about caps until 4.0, get HQ gear and meld it, and keep it. It's fine.
    If you hate melding, all red scrip gear is fine to get everything currently. On the way to that goal, the blue scrip gear is fine, even, so I assume NQ gear is even better.

    So all in all it just depends if you're willing to meld a bunch or not. I suggest if you DO want to meld then just save for HQ gear to begin with, don't bother with melding NQ gear.
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    Alya Mizar
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    Right now the only red scrip gear that beats pentamelded HQ is the mainhand and the chest piece.
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    Devenu De'lune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    Right now the only red scrip gear that beats pentamelded HQ is the mainhand and the chest piece.
    This. The lack of gp and gathering on other pieces of red scrip gear makes the hqs better. Getting 650 gp is ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by konage View Post
    This. The lack of gp and gathering on other pieces of red scrip gear makes the hqs better. Getting 650 gp is ideal.
    700........
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    Devenu De'lune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    700........
    I guess...if you want to make food every time you go gathering, or if your a hardcore gatherer that wants to maximize cluster farming? Going for HQ for 3-star mats is a waste of gp. With 650 gp w/o food you can 100% collectables.
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    Leopold Sidney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    700........
    I'm curious, what specific rotation are you using that requires 700 GP? The only one I can think of is for mats from legendary nodes like konage said (yield+2, gather+15%, HQ+10%.) This would be handy, but there can be legitimate differences of opinion over whether this is worth shooting for in gear (especially since you'd need to use food every time.) This is nowhere near as clear cut as maximizing CP on crafting gear.

    The left-side ***keep's gear does have higher gathering/perception than what is possible through melds, though there are a few caveats to that:
    - You need to get multiple pieces to cover for each other (e.g. the hat's lack of a gathering stat is covered by the boosted gathering on the gloves, and the other way around for perception)
    - The final stats aren't all that much higher than what's possible through melds - maybe 5-8 gathering and 15 perception between the head/hands/legs/feet. So it's reasonable to argue for it not being worth all those scrips right now.
    - You will take a hit on GP, though it's still fairly easy to get to 650 with melds (and possible to hit 700 with ludicrous melds on the accessories and food.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateCat View Post
    I'm curious, what specific rotation are you using that requires 700 GP? The only one I can think of is for mats from legendary nodes like konage said (yield+2, gather+15%, HQ+10%.)...
    That's it. Legendaries. But also on 5 yeild hiddens I can, without food, go yeild +1, 4 strikes, solid - ageless, 1 strike, deep - brunt.
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I actually planned to get the red script chest and gloves cus they have 4 gp and the rest do not. Did i screw myself out of the 6 perception i had on my i150 gloves or will the i180 balance it out enough?

    And yea., i just finished melding my i170 crafted stuff. Go big or go home, 774 gp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    I actually planned to get the red script chest and gloves cus they have 4 gp and the rest do not. Did i screw myself out of the 6 perception i had on my i150 gloves or will the i180 balance it out enough?

    And yea., i just finished melding my i170 crafted stuff. Go big or go home, 774 gp.
    is 774 gp even possible? 717 gp with stuffed chysahl and max gp melds.
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