unpopular opinions about WAR

[ArdorGrey]

No, this isn't a place for all the "pld/drk should do more dps, and be better tanks, and/or drain more health, and/or be better at whatever other niche. those are all POPULAR opinions about warrior. You could close your eyes and click on one on this page.

A good example would be-heavens forbid- addressing what few extremely glaring flaws the class *does* have. One would be their aoe dps-tp ratio that many pretend doesn't exist when ranting about war has no right to equilibrium.

Perhaps a better one would be how fracture is arguably the worst gcd in the game, and the only reason it hasn't been buffed yet is because Wars kit as a whole is so cohesive.

If you're feeling particularly aggressive you could bring up how the whole stance dance ogcd makes perfect sense when you consider how WARs stance actually works and the fact that they have to burn a gcd and a full 5 stacks just to get the DR the other two tanks enjoy just by swapping stance casually- and they need a melee range target to do it.

Feel free to address these or whatever other Unpopular WAR opinions you have! Just remember what tends to actually constitute unpopular vs popular 'round these parts when talking about WAR. we don't need a millionth topic about how BB needs to be nerfed or DRK should be given a super version of path. ^_~

[SpookyGhost]

Fracture can't be the worst GCD as long as Haymaker exists. ;D At least Fracture is a DPS gain if you use it right and (I believe?) still has some use for MNK. It could use a potency buff to make it more appealing, though that would require other nerfs that I don't think WARs who don't want to use Fracture would be particularly happy about.

TP drain is generally non-existent even in AOE situations, DRG/MNK/NIN/BRD/etc all have to deal with the same limitations. Equilibrium and Decimate (as well as FC after the AOE's over) really go a long way to making OP spam entirely viable without any real consequence. I mean, Equal is on such a short CD that we can feasibly sprint in combat without any real downsides.

I'm not a huge fan of how Deliverance -> Defiance doesn't swap FC -> IB and Decimate -> SC, but having a macro or a gaming mouse is a decent enough workaround for that problem.

Other than that... idk. I feel like WAR is really tightly built, it's hard to find a problem with anything in the kit.

[Syzygian]

No, this isn't a place for all the "pld/drk should do more dps, and be better tanks, and/or drain more health, and/or be better at whatever other niche. those are all POPULAR opinions about warrior. You could close your eyes and click on one on this page.

Those aren't opinions about WAR period, popular or otherwise.

This looks like thinly veiled "trump up niche problems with war so people will shut up about the problems with the other two tanks"? Hoo boy.

Also show me the nerf BB threads and give DRK path threads cause i can't find any.

On a more constructive note, I feel if they move Grit/oaths oGCD, WAR should get a "heal" from Defiance. It'd only be fair.

[ArdorGrey]

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Other than that... idk. I feel like WAR is really tightly built, it's hard to find a problem with anything in the kit.

Iunno, I've heard some interesting theorycrafting about haymakers potential applications on bard. That aside, good point xD not sure if it would require nerfs though, especially if actual changes come around the same time everyone gets other trait boosts via an expansion.

I wasn't saying equilibrium needs to be stronger than it is now, so much as nerfing it would be a joke when drks can already aoe all day every day.

Good call on the skillset swap. Or, for that matter, as flashy as the "new" skill animations are, why do they need to be skills at all? why not just make deliverance affect IB and SC the same way it affects equilibrium?

[Zadocfish]

I have the most unpopular opinion about WAR of all.

I think it's fine.

[MagiusNecros]

I have the most unpopular opinion about WAR of all.

I think it's fine.

That's because it's a fact.

[winsock]

I don't see any glaring flaws with WAR. It's one of the most well-designed classes in the game.

It has decisions on cross class skills, actions that synergize extremely well, and a very unique playstyle. Pretty much every weakness this class has compared to the other tanks is offset by a sufficient strength.

[Anienai]

@OP

Your eye patch looks very manly.

Unpopular opinion about WAR? Our animations are the best in the game.

[Ashkendor]

No, this isn't a place for all the "pld/drk should do more dps, and be better tanks, and/or drain more health, and/or be better at whatever other niche. those are all POPULAR opinions about warrior. You could close your eyes and click on one on this page.

Er. But those "popular opinions" aren't about warrior at all? They're about PLD and DRK.

If anything, we didn't need a millionth thread bitching about things that don't need to be fixed at all - i.e. WAR.

This actually kinda feels like a thinly-veiled "lol wars are awesome" thread.

[CoolCat]

Er. But those "popular opinions" aren't about warrior at all? They're about PLD and DRK.

If anything, we didn't need a millionth thread bitching about things that don't need to be fixed at all - i.e. WAR.

This actually kinda feels like a thinly-veiled "lol wars are awesome" thread.

Kind of why most of the time I can't take a post from a main WAR seriously.