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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    The tank buster in Odin is a magic attack so foresight and bulwark are useless against it. All you have as a PLD is rampart, sentinel, hallowed ground and stoneskin.

    Keep in mind that Odin is designed for two tanks, if you're doing it at the appropriate level or synced a tank swap may be in order. Rampart + stoneskin > sentinel > hallowed ground > rampart + stoneskin > tank swap > let them do their CD rotation > swap again.
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    Kessler Larael
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    the Odin trail is something a bit specific compared to other trails as Sangetall comes out A LOT, so as people have mentioned you will run out of CD's to rotate that actually work on it.

    i doubt your doing anything wrong as a tank, however you may be better off using CD's when other mechanics are going off at the same and/or close to Sangetall, as in truth its more of a "Timed Healing" mechanic as much as a TB, so the times its happening on its own the healers -should- be focused on it, but others their attention may be split

    the cast time is long enough for an Adlo to be placed before hand and a cure etc to be cast near immediately after.

    Odin has been solo tankable since the begining in gear bellow the current sync level, you just require healers to be on point more to do so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    The tank buster in Odin is a magic attack
    Wrong, you can block or parry Sangetall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Wrong, you can block or parry Sangetall.
    Went in to see, you're right it's been a while since I've done it and I was thinking of the AoE he does before the tank buster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KazumaFaemura View Post
    It depends on the fight that you are doing like if you do Sephirot EX you can easily survive his phase 1 tank buster just using Rampart, Foresight, and Sentinel alone. Though I do pop Awareness with Rampart just to insure that I don't get screwed over if the game decides to give him a crit.
    Tankbusters can't crit. Followup autoattacks can, though. You're better off pairing Awareness with Bulwark since you can't block crits. Also, abuse the ever-living hell out of Sheltron in Sephirot EX since almost everything in there is physical damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    The tank buster in Odin is a magic attack so foresight and bulwark are useless against it. All you have as a PLD is rampart, sentinel, hallowed ground and stoneskin.
    Er no, you can block/parry it. It's physical.

    Keep in mind that Odin is designed for two tanks, if you're doing it at the appropriate level or synced a tank swap may be in order. Rampart + stoneskin > sentinel > hallowed ground > rampart + stoneskin > tank swap > let them do their CD rotation > swap again.
    Yep, nothing wrong with a tank swap if you're running out of cd's. Just remember to abuse Rampart's short cooldown!
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    Kha'tan Moapaln
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    Your healers need to be absolutely attentive in that fight for the tank buster. I have always loved the trial since it came out. For the moderate player it was a nice dps check mixed with frequent tank busters and healing. If you are being attentive and using your cooldowns, the healers must also prepare. I mained a SCH back at 50 and yes I made sure my tank had an adlo. If you are topped off and only dropping to 3K after a tank buster and still manage to die due to lack of healing, it might be a healer thing too.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Stoneskin is your friend in that fight if you run out of cooldowns. Also, on Odin specifically it's nice to save Hallowed Ground for the part in which the raidwide Bleeding effect is up and you get Sangetall. It will give healers a LOT of breathing room. Just remember to let them know through a macro if you're in DF.

    Tank Busters in general are meant to be scary moves, but even a single competent healer can help you out a lot. They're actually designed to be a healer+tank mechanic. Tank has to save cooldowns for it, while healers MUST top the tank off before the TB. Otherwise it's very likely you won't make it, since a single TB will usually take away around 75% of your HP with a low mitigation cooldown, but healers should also be ready Adloquium, Nocturnal Field or Stoneskin from WHM, even though for WHM is better to just time their healing so that the damage you recieve is nullified by the time you get hit.

    tl;dr: you're doing fine, TBs are made to do a lot of damage, so don't be scared. It's your job to get hit to the face! (but also to try and mitigate those hits :P)
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    Kori Fleming
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    Sentinel -> Rampart -> Hallowed -> Sentinel -> Rampart -> tank swap. I haven't done Odin in forever, though, so it might be better to go Rampart -> Sentinel -> Hallowed -> Rampart if the tankbusters are too close together. I do remember Odin sucking when I was leveling my alt in 3.0 though, but I was also a DRK so.

    Alternatively, you could do what I ended up doing, and grab random lvl 60 people to undersize it.
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    Koren Agashi
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Foresight is great cd now because it's based off your def not, pre hw we didn't have a lot of def for to to really help vs busters without help of another cd. It's still great to use, Sheltron +fore is love
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    Rynard Artwite
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    I personally pair Foresight with Conva. In my experience it mitigates more than a Rampart factoring the improved healing, but of course 2 CDs doing doing a little better than 1 isn't exactly efficient.
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