Tank Busters Mitigation

[Iceboy]

Hey There guys!

So... I was playing in Urth Fount as a PLD a quite while, trying to beat Odin. The problem is, I don't know how I can mitigate the damage from sangetall (his tank buster).

Just one def buff is fine? Like rampart/foresight/sentinel Or I have to ask the healers for a stoneskin/eye for eye?

I'm asking this because, sometimes, even if I use a def buff, I got 6k damage, and for Odin, in DF, 6k damage its almost all my hp (around 9900~sync).

I'm a little scared with the endgame trial/dungeons (i'm 10 quests away from 3.1/3.2 content) so I want to improve my weak points as a tank!

[KazumaFaemura]

It depends on the fight that you are doing like if you do Sephirot EX you can easily survive his phase 1 tank buster just using Rampart, Foresight, and Sentinel alone. Though I do pop Awareness with Rampart just to insure that I don't get screwed over if the game decides to give him a crit.

[MeridaQ]

For Odin specifically the fight lasts long enough that even with rotating CDs (in DF) that you will run out of CDs before he is dead. I would say start using some light CDs in the beginning then bulwark light CDs then sentinel. Use HG if you know you can be topped off and SS yourself when you can in preparation of TB. Good luck!!

[Slappah]

Foresight by itself isn't really ever enough to mitigate a tank buster well, it gives 20% defense but in reality 20% defense isn't really anywhere close to a flat 20% damage reduction like a real CD is.

Odin tank buster hits hard, that's just how the fight is.

Imo warrior was/is the best for that fight because they can have inner beast up for every tank buster (usually)

[Rhaja]

Foresight by itself isn't really ever enough to mitigate a tank buster well, it gives 20% defense but in reality 20% defense isn't really anywhere close to a flat 20% damage reduction like a real CD is.

Odin tank buster hits hard, that's just how the fight is.

Imo warrior was/is the best for that fight because they can have inner beast up for every tank buster (usually)

I really hated trying to convince PUG's that. Was one of the few times I hated that WAR=DPS with some tankiness in the general eye.

[Reynhart]

Imo warrior was/is the best for that fight because they can have inner beast up for every tank buster (usually)

So, your answer to "How do I do it as a PLD" is : Play WAR ?

In all seriousness, Iceboy, don't forget that PLD can use Stoneskin itself with its otherwise useless MP. If you have 9900 HP max, Stoneskin absorbs 990 damage. On a 6k hits, it equals a 16% mitigation.
Not too bad if your pair it each time with another CD. Your rotation will also depends on your current HP. If you're full, Stoneskin can basically be enough, especially if a SCH or AST shields you, and it saves your bigger CD for harder parts of the fight.

Also, if you have only ranged DPS, you can even move Odin to "delay" the attack, but I wouldn't recommend this for the basic method.

[Cabalabob]

The tank buster in Odin is a magic attack so foresight and bulwark are useless against it. All you have as a PLD is rampart, sentinel, hallowed ground and stoneskin.

Keep in mind that Odin is designed for two tanks, if you're doing it at the appropriate level or synced a tank swap may be in order. Rampart + stoneskin > sentinel > hallowed ground > rampart + stoneskin > tank swap > let them do their CD rotation > swap again.

[LDR]

the Odin trail is something a bit specific compared to other trails as Sangetall comes out A LOT, so as people have mentioned you will run out of CD's to rotate that actually work on it.

i doubt your doing anything wrong as a tank, however you may be better off using CD's when other mechanics are going off at the same and/or close to Sangetall, as in truth its more of a "Timed Healing" mechanic as much as a TB, so the times its happening on its own the healers -should- be focused on it, but others their attention may be split

the cast time is long enough for an Adlo to be placed before hand and a cure etc to be cast near immediately after.

Odin has been solo tankable since the begining in gear bellow the current sync level, you just require healers to be on point more to do so

[Reynhart]

The tank buster in Odin is a magic attack

Wrong, you can block or parry Sangetall.

[repoe]

It depends on the fight that you are doing like if you do Sephirot EX you can easily survive his phase 1 tank buster just using Rampart, Foresight, and Sentinel alone. Though I do pop Awareness with Rampart just to insure that I don't get screwed over if the game decides to give him a crit.

Awareness' usefullness for tank busters Is the same as wearing swim trunks to keep warm in a blizzard.
Just to clarify:
Tankbusters can't do critical damage, the only time I popped awarenesd while prepping TB mitigation was for the cleave that followed immediately after heavenly heel