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    Jilliebeans's Avatar
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    Sonatia Eikyuu
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 90

    rebirth or reraise?

    i know its not too much too ask but i feel like healer should get a skill where they can get back up if they died. I know u shouldnt die in a battle of a fight but ACCIDENT does happens!!! kinda "stupid" to just do the whole fight ALL OVER again because healer couldnt get back up so the group has to wipe....

    In every mmo that i played its a very very common skill for healer, not only the skill is useful but also give healer another chance to "pay more attention" lol, so PLEASE?
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    that kind of skill could easily be abused for certain endgame mechanics making it way to powerful at all... personally i dont know if it would be a good idea : /
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    1. Cast Reraise on self.
    2. Personally die before instant wipe mechanic.
    3. Activate raise just as instant wipe mechanic is about to go off.
    4. Healer LB3 after party dies, while the boss is recovering from his ultimate attack.
    5. Realize Reraise has Additional Effect: Breaks the game.
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    Legion88's Avatar
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    1. Cast Reraise on self.
    2. Personally die before instant wipe mechanic.
    3. Activate raise just as instant wipe mechanic is about to go off.
    4. Healer LB3 after party dies, while the boss is recovering from his ultimate attack.
    5. Realize Reraise has Additional Effect: Breaks the game.
    Not if it is limited to use for like 10 sec after death and give further disadvantages like no actions, no movement, no use of skills for 5-10 sec after selfres and an no LB for like 30 sec.
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    Ultear_Milkovich's Avatar
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    Pandora Heinstein
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jilliebeans View Post
    i know its not too much too ask but i feel like healer should get a skill where they can get back up if they died. I know u shouldnt die in a battle of a fight but ACCIDENT does happens!!! kinda "stupid" to just do the whole fight ALL OVER again because healer couldnt get back up so the group has to wipe....

    In every mmo that i played its a very very common skill for healer, not only the skill is useful but also give healer another chance to "pay more attention" lol, so PLEASE?
    Practice exists to avoid avoidable deaths.

    Patience and commitment exists to afford accidents.

    The toolkit is already here lol.

    Sorry Sir but im not behind that autoraise thing. And this comes from somebody who wiped countless runs by hitting the floor as the MT.
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    Sida's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    One thing that maybe wouldn't push the whole stack would be to give raising ability that can be used during a fight to couple other jobs. Currently summoner can raise a healer in light party content but that's about it. Not saying every job should get it, just maybe one or two more and odds to have someone who can raise a healer would be better.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    Not if it is limited to use for like 10 sec after death and give further disadvantages like no actions, no movement, no use of skills for 5-10 sec after selfres and an no LB for like 30 sec.
    what's the point in getting reraised if you have a penalty right after getting up? 5-10 secs are like "hours" in those situations healers actually could die nowadays... reraise under those conditions would be pretty useless in the end - but yeah indeed without penalty it's way to powerful... so no for me - reraise = bad idea :3
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    DarkmoonVael's Avatar
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    There is a skill in the game that does this already, its called not standing in the bad.
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    Zaj Quilos
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Or maybe just get rid of the weakness debuff at least.
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    Player Cleftobismal's Avatar
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    Clefto Bismal
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I'm lost, how does one evade a instant raid KO from re raising? Even while being rezzed normally, you still will take damage. (Despite you can't even be healed/buffed yet) Once everyone is dead, the trial/boss fight resets, even if you press it as everyone dies. It's pretty much the same as having another healer dead, using raise and pressing the ok prompt when the wipe happens. It won't work because you are still busy warping. Unless you guys actually think SE wouldn't put in such a measure on an ability.
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