Possible alteration to Cleric Stance

[Rhode]

Current:

"Swaps current INT and MND attribute ratings, while increasing damage dealt by attack magic by 10% and reducing spell-based HP restoration by 20%. Effect ends upon reuse. Cannot be used in PvP areas."

Requested:

"Swaps current INT and MND attribute ratings, while increasing damage dealt by attack magic by 5%, reducing spell-based HP restoration by 25%, and greatly increasing accuracy. Effect ends upon reuse. Cannot be used in PvP areas."

Greatly could be about 200% (for now), and then 225%, then 250%, as item level increases.

Eg, base accuracy for White Mage that is i210 is 400. 400 x 200% = 800, which is more than enough for A8S I believe.

[Tanathya]

Don't reduce the damage dealt. Keep it at a 10%.

[Lambdafish]

Shield oath: increases chance to hit by 5%

You mean something like that? The only downside I can see is that it would promote bad healers who stay in cleric stance, but that isn't really a downside.

[AeraLure]

Why? It would negate the need to meld. A few ACC melds and you can hit fairly well in most content. I actually like that the choice is there to specialize in DPS or pure heal, a little bit of a hybrid, or build two sets to swap. Changing Cleric Stance to add ACC sort of negates any need for an ACC meld and its back to all healers being identical. If anything, I'd rather it get even a bit harder to hit and there be an ACC buff from some job in support. A lot of stats and builds int he game are just too straightforwardly simple already.

[Niroken]

Why? It would negate the need to meld. A few ACC melds and you can hit fairly well in most content. I actually like that the choice is there to specialize in DPS or pure heal, a little bit of a hybrid, or build two sets to swap. Changing Cleric Stance to add ACC sort of negates any need for an ACC meld and its back to all healers being identical. If anything, I'd rather it get even a bit harder to hit and there be an ACC buff from some job in support. A lot of stats and builds int he game are just too straightforwardly simple already.

So what makes Healers so special that they are required to have two sets gear while other classes do not? Tanks now do not need to have both STR and VIT accessories for some reason.

[Ghishlain]

If you're gonna give Healer's such a large boost in accuracy in Cleric Stance you might as well just remove Accuracy as a stat for the entire game if you're going to do this. I disagree with this proposal for that very reason.

[Rhode]

If you're gonna give Healer's such a large boost in accuracy in Cleric Stance you might as well just remove Accuracy as a stat for the entire game if you're going to do this. I disagree with this proposal for that very reason.

That's the reason I made them hit for a bit less.

Healers should at least get a native +200 accuracy or something of the like, because melding accuracy is annoying since none of our gear has it.

[Shurrikhan]

If you're gonna give Healer's such a large boost in accuracy in Cleric Stance you might as well just remove Accuracy as a stat for the entire game if you're going to do this. I disagree with this proposal for that very reason.

I might have to agree with the proposal just for the fallout that would ensue, then.

@Niroken

Technically every job already has two sets of BiS for that very reason. You have your true full weight set, for low-acc content, and then you have your secondary stat-sapped raiding set... to somehow reduce damage output in a way that they couldn't simply tune the fight for?

[Ghishlain]

That's the reason I made them hit for a bit less.

Healers should at least get a native +200 accuracy or something of the like, because melding accuracy is annoying since none of our gear has it.

Again, if you're going to propose such an EXTREME measure, you might as well remove the Accuracy stat entirely. Why should Healers, a Role by design to keep your party alive, have a free pass to DPS on any content they desire while all other DPS and Tanks jobs have to optimize for that stat.

I don't mind if Cleric Stance gets an Accuracy boost, but an Accuracy boost of this magnitude is far from any form, shape, or semblance of balance whatsoever.

I'd rather Cleric Stance has a scaling Accuracy based on your ilvl that is small yet noticeable. Say maybe +10 Accuracy for every 20 ilvls above 150.

I might have to agree with the proposal just for the fallout that would ensue, then.

I got a feeling the only reason S-E keeps Accuracy as a stat is to keep Healer DPS in check. If they removed Accuracy as a stat, my gut intuition tells me they'd end up removing Cleric Stance in 4- and 8- player DFs at the very same time. Call me pessimistic but I just got a feeling.

[Amiaze]

If you're gonna give Healer's such a large boost in accuracy in Cleric Stance you might as well just remove Accuracy as a stat for the entire game if you're going to do this. I disagree with this proposal for that very reason.

This.

This is a very extreme proposition just for the sake of giving us our accuracy back. It would also be a very unfair advantage to other DPS that might end up having lower accuracy just because of their gear, whereas we would be using a skill to augment ours for an indefinite amount of time.

We can now meld tome gear. I see no reason not to take full advantage of that. It finally gives us the opportunity to make a gameplay choice rather than being funneled into doing the same thing. Back in 2.X endgame, I mismatched gear so I could have better Spell Speed versus slightly better healing output. Now I can do that sort of thing (or others) without having to worry about ilvl requirements and the like. An increase in accuracy would take away one of our few melding options, and throw away all the effort already put in by healers who, like yourself, value their DPS output.