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    Well, if it is a choice between what XIV has now with autoattack and how combat was before, I will gladly take the current auto-attack implementation over the ADD Button mash fest it used to be.

    If they wanna rip autoattack out for 2.0, fine, just make sure the system that replaces it works and isn't anything like XIV pre 1.18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Well, if it is a choice between what XIV has now with autoattack and how combat was before, I will gladly take the current auto-attack implementation over the ADD Button mash fest it used to be.

    If they wanna rip autoattack out for 2.0, fine, just make sure the system that replaces it works and isn't anything like XIV pre 1.18.
    You still spam actions now, since there is no queueing of actions and lag is horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    You still spam actions now, since there is no queueing of actions and lag is horrible.
    Maybe *you* do... I don't. I have quite the leisurely time playing on my controller now. Dare I say, combat is even.... gasp... fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Maybe *you* do... I don't. I have quite the leisurely time playing on my controller now. Dare I say, combat is even.... gasp... fun...
    La-de-freaking-da.

    What? Do you live inside the FFXIV servers or something?

    Everyone else experiences lag and has to spam actions so quit rubbing our faces in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    La-de-freaking-da.

    What? Do you live inside the FFXIV servers or something?

    Everyone else experiences lag and has to spam actions so quit rubbing our faces in it.
    No.. I still get some lag, but nothing that has effected me negatively in combat. Sometimes I have to hit my A button twice for an action to fire off, not a big deal. The only time I spam my action is when I see the mob readying a special ability and I'm like 1 auto attack from having enough TP to fire of an ability to either stop the mobs ability or kill it.. then I spam my a button on the ability to beat the mob to the punch.

    The only times I experienced any real lag was when I had my graphics settings up too high for my video card, then EVERYTHING would lag.. movement, combat, menus etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Everyone else experiences lag and has to spam actions so quit rubbing our faces in it.
    Yea, don't speak for everyone, thanks.

    I don't have to spam actions and it hasn't impacted my combat capabilities negatively. So it's a person by person basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Yea, don't speak for everyone, thanks.

    I don't have to spam actions and it hasn't impacted my combat capabilities negatively. So it's a person by person basis.
    You have to be joking. There is so much lag that ensuring an action goes off relies on an immense amount of button spamming, particularly now that there is no action queuing.

    FFXIV combat is atrocious. It's downright horrible. It's slow. You generally sit there for 5-10 seconds doing nothing while you wait for your TP bar to fill, and having that time double if you miss. Actions take a huge amount of time to go off (2-3 seconds after the button press). Animation lock is a terrible concept, particularly when things like crit animations take twice as long to play.

    Defending the current system for whatever reason is just ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    You have to be joking. There is so much lag that ensuring an action goes off relies on an immense amount of button spamming, particularly now that there is no action queuing.

    FFXIV combat is atrocious. It's downright horrible. It's slow. You generally sit there for 5-10 seconds doing nothing while you wait for your TP bar to fill, and having that time double if you miss. Actions take a huge amount of time to go off (2-3 seconds after the button press). Animation lock is a terrible concept, particularly when things like crit animations take twice as long to play.

    Defending the current system for whatever reason is just ridiculous.
    People claiming XIV's combat system is lag free are just deluded. They have no clue what actual lag-free (or as close to possible) combat is. Having to even "sometimes" hit a button twice for it to register is a HUGE red flag that the combat system is horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    You have to be joking. There is so much lag that ensuring an action goes off relies on an immense amount of button spamming, particularly now that there is no action queuing.

    FFXIV combat is atrocious. It's downright horrible. It's slow. You generally sit there for 5-10 seconds doing nothing while you wait for your TP bar to fill, and having that time double if you miss. Actions take a huge amount of time to go off (2-3 seconds after the button press). Animation lock is a terrible concept, particularly when things like crit animations take twice as long to play.

    Defending the current system for whatever reason is just ridiculous.
    I don't know what classes you play but I never have said problems. On top of that the wait is way less when compared to having to wait for 100% TP in FFXI. The current system does has a few flaws but nothing game breaking. As a Lancer you should never have to wait long for you attacks especially with Speed Surge up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    People claiming XIV's combat system is lag free are just deluded. They have no clue what actual lag-free (or as close to possible) combat is. Having to even "sometimes" hit a button twice for it to register is a HUGE red flag that the combat system is horrible.
    By the way lag comes from the server side problems that is well known in the game right now and is going to be fixed. The problems doesn't come from the combat system, if you knew anything or had a lick of common sense you would understand that much.
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