FFXIV moved away from auto-attack while WOW went without... how odd.

[Shipp]

Wonder how many people are gonna be complaining about spamming 1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1 over and over again in WoW now...

You already do this in WoW as any caster class and most of the melees. There is really not much difference.

you still spam actions in FFXIV because of lag and lack of action queueing.

Nobody complains about spamming anymore because the got their precious autoattack so they could go afk in combat which was the real reason they wanted it, tbh.

People wanted AA because this game's combat is too freaking slow to sit their and spam the same basic attacks over and over. It works in games like WoW because you have a 1 second global cooldown upon pressing a key. If it's an instant spell, you still have to wait 1 second to cast anything else. XIV had huge amount of combat lag before auto-attack and you'd press the key 3-4 times before it would even register as one hit.

Getting rid of auto-attack is only worth doing when you have combat like GW2, Tera, etc. If you are still in the archaic but proven system that WoW is in where you are not actually targeting a specific part of a target, manually aiming, etc, then there is absolutely no reason for not having auto-attack. You aren't mashing "Punch" in WoW like you were in XIV. You mash several different abilities and spells that do way more damage than a basic attack. XIV used to play more like a horrible and laggy fighting game as opposed to an action MMO. It never even resembled an action MMO.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I can't believe there is still people in this game that want Auto- attack gone, its amazing in every way you look at it. This is one area where I cannot see another persons point of view, sorry.

[Tonkra]

i couldnt stand it to click again and over again to perform an attack each 3-5 secs... and then this *meep* weep* tone. oh no please.

i prefer auto attack and performing "special" attacks in the right situations. there are more actions you can do than just a simple auto attack.. self buffs etc pp.


even Final Fantasy 12 had auto attack... and i thought this battlesystem would have been ausum for FFXIV as well... it would fit perfect for an MMOrpg battle system

[Evenstar]

So, first it is: Don't make it like WoW, we hate WoW, WoW sucks, what are you doing SE!

Now it is: Hey WoW is removing auto attack, why did SE add it, WoW is cool, WoW is epic, WoW is a pioneer

R I G H T

[Davorok]

Perhaps XIV's Auto-Attack could be put on an activation timer?

You have to press your Basic Attack once to initiate AA which starts a Cooldown Timer of say...1 minute?

You could then open with a TP Move on the next Mob before you activate AA again for another minute.

Just a possible compromise anyway.

[Lienn]

So, first it is: Don't make it like WoW, we hate WoW, WoW sucks, what are you doing SE!

Now it is: Hey WoW is removing auto attack, why did SE add it, WoW is cool, WoW is epic, WoW is a pioneer

R I G H T

The correct is: "WoW is the main rival". I never liked WoW..still, Blizzard seems to have the guts that is lacking to SE...the will of making something good alone isn't enough...they need the guts to accept the risks and innovate.

Still, i care very little nowadays...i'd rather just have the 2.0 as the "real" FFXIV and, since everything from original FFXIV will be discarded...even servers included, that the original FFXIV project was resumed as a spin-off game. This way it would be able to complete its development without the burden of being "the" FFXIV, being then capable of follow the casual path without regrets.

Perhaps XIV's Auto-Attack could be put on an activation timer?

You have to press your Basic Attack once to initiate AA which starts a Cooldown Timer of say...1 minute?

You could then open with a TP Move on the next Mob before you activate AA again for another minute.

Just a possible compromise anyway.

This is what i've been asking, man...since the very start i asked them "Hey...just add an AA button at basic attacks...just like we have AoE button at spells. This way people can toggle it on/off with minor/no problems."...but they never heard. And the result is the one seen today...where we already have a bulky game, except by the battle-related content.

Right now battle is the weak link of this FFXIV chain.

[Tanoshii]

Funny as a level 30+ish pug in ffxiv i had over 3 bars full of spell Attack,def,buff and i use everyone of them and only use the auto attack when needed which was to build up TP. I still don't understand why people hate the system maybe they could have made it better but w/e

i enjoy ffxiv with or without auto attack.

So, without auto attacking, you would have to manually build TP is what you're saying. Which means unless they added a bunch of cool abilities that build TP, you would just be simulating auto attacking to build that TP, which is what used to happen in beta, which sucked hard.

[ViceVersa]

It was said at Blizzcon that the non auto attack wasn't set in stone and that they are very split about it. There are issues with the non auto attack such as not being able to finish a mob off that has little hp remaining without wasting resources. I got to play the pre-alpha for a bit and it very much reminded me of ff14 button mashing of 111111111. While it wasn't terrible i missed the option of auto attacking just for ease of killing. Maybe they will change it, maybe they will axe it, who knows.

[elreed]

Wtf is wrong with you, first everyone demanded to implemment auto attack and know you want it out of the game just because a "crappy every expansion the same stuff" game is now taking a few steps that way, i personally liked how the game was without AA, but some classes were tough to play just because u needed to spam a few normal attacks (pug,gld, mrd), right now is really good you have your AA as Tp builder and use all ur skills when you feel like it.

and a good thing about AA is that make the play less annoying, the first month you wont care but after that you get tired of having to spam same stuff, i was an archer when we didnt had AA so i didnt know that much, before the patch for AA was really annoying having to control every hit for Tp as GLD and leaving as much stamina for provoke, having to take care of the shield, so in a few words was really frustrating to be like this all the time, now i tried gld and AA lets you do what you are supposed to be doing watching hate and using skills as needed.

Go out and take some fresh air you've been here in the forums without rest for far too long...

[Ava]

Blizzard has MMORPG experience that I'm sure every developer would dream of having. Blizzard has more money, more resources, more... everything.

Plus, they displayed some doubt in the system of no auto attack and if you remember from last year's Blizzcon, less than half of the features they announced made it into the game at all. I don't see them sticking with the no auto attack, but if they do, good luck to them, I'm sure they could make it work just because they are Blizzard, they can make anything work. And if it doesn't, the life of their game doesn't hang in the balance, like FFXIV's did.