FFXIV moved away from auto-attack while WOW went without... how odd.

[Denmo]

Demanding they take auto-attack out now is demanding that they throw 2.0 back another half a year.

Good job, people.

[Hikozaemon]

why are we comparing *** like WoW to ff14 again? apples and oranges and OH MY now PANDA BEARS! [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]. Please keep WoW which was outdated in many aspects when it was released outa the ff14 forums it was not the first MMO nor has it really been the best just because it had high subs which now are dropping like the Space station. Did u notice they are conning people people into paying for 1yr of WoW sub for a free copy of Diablo 3 so it doesnt look like no ones playing WoW.

[Majidah]

Auto attack is why i'm playing FFXIV. But this is because i preffer slower games and that is why i love FFXI combat. I hope TP gain get slower than atm and dagame from normal attack get a bit of more dmg.

this. I hope they lower TP generation so we have to put even more thought in what we do. Currently its more like spam whichever weaponskill is up as long as you have tp.

[Baxter]

it can be just like FFXIVs old attack system, and people will still say WoW pioneered it lol

[Evenstar]

WoW did not pioneer anything at all. Everything WoW did was done before, just not at that scale. Blizzard is just freaking smart and they know like the best how to create a hype. Something SE fails at.

[indira]

age of conan did non-auto attack right, ffxiv did it crappy and there auto attack is fine i have time to set up my plan of attack better.

wow is just wow F that game

[Shipp]

Well WOW might just be testing the waters for a non-auto attack system. If it works well they might introduce the system for all classes but if they fail at it like FFXIV did, then the Monk class might eventually go back to auto-attack too.

WoW already largely does not use auto-attack. The only people using it are melee who have all of their abilities on cooldown. 95% of the time you are using skills (even as melee), which is much faster paced than XIV was even before auto-attack. The other 5% is when your character auto-attacks eventually while you're waiting for the 1 second global cooldown on your next ability.

[Wolfie]

It's funny you say that because in WOW auto-attack hasn't been a big thing for a very, very long time. They've gone mostly to rotations which have you stare at your action bar 24/7 and that have no affect on auto attack; while auto-attacks are just something that's there and enhanced by stats. WOW hasn't been an auto-attack MMO for a very, very long time.

FFXIV is starting self combos too, which I'm guessing will be closer to rotations or maybe Aion's combo system so that's good. But I'm okay if combat isn't as fast paced as WOW, Aion or RIFT's. As long as it has a decent pace and is tactical, people will like it.

[indira]

They've gone mostly to rotations which have you stare at your action bar 24/7 and that have no affect on auto attack;

thats called button mashing, since it plays to fast to actually think. just macro your rotation and run around >.>

[Shipp]

why are we comparing *** like WoW to ff14 again? apples and oranges and OH MY now PANDA BEARS! [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] Please keep WoW which was outdated in many aspects when it was released outa the ff14 forums it was not the first MMO nor has it really been the best just because it had high subs which now are dropping like the Space station. Did u notice they are conning people people into paying for 1yr of WoW sub for a free copy of Diablo 3 so it doesnt look like no ones playing WoW.

Pandaren are not simply stereotypical panda bears. Anyone who played WC3 knows this. WoW might have been out-dated in a -FEW- aspects at release, but XI and XIV certainly beat WoW in that category by a large margin. 900k people left after Cata. What did Cata do different? It didn't focus on endgame, it focused on redesigning 1-60. It also made drastic changes to classes like healers. Do you think Blizzard will do that again? Highly doubtful. They have no reason to redesign part of the world, because flyers can be used everywhere except PvP, which will never happen, and the 4 starter BC zones.

I wish people would actually think before bashing a game that is always going to be more successful than their own game of choice. They aren't conning anyone, by the way, just stop with your exaggerations, Zenaku 2.0.

Seriously, I don't like Cata, and I haven't raided except 3 times this expac, yet people on this forum are *** about any little thing they can about WoW. WoW, even during Cata, still has mountains of things to do compared to XIV currently. Cata actually will give $15/month worth, even if you barely play it. XIV does not feel like that for most people who bought it, and likely won't until 2.0. If you want to talk about "conning," you'd be much closer to the mark with SE charging for XIV starting in December, though you'd still be off the mark since people know exactly what they're paying for, exactly like how people in WoW do.


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