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  1. #31
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    Tizzy_Tormentor's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Tizzy Tormentor
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    I would say just practice, if you really enjoy a class, just play it and learn the nuances and tricks of it, ask for some help or look up some guides.

    For example, I really enjoy playing MCH, I used to be pretty sub-par at it, I asked a friend to show me the optimal opener and how to keep up sustain, with a bit of guidance and practice, I can dish out very satisfactory DPS, all it took was patience.

    Keep up with the jobs you like, seek someone to help you out, you will get results in no time.
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  2. #32
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    RocheKat's Avatar
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    Klarity Sincerity
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 46
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninster View Post
    Actually, not really. About as much help as I could get was "maybe you could find your own static?", which I'm not sure how to take. And as he elaborated on some of the other stuff he's done with me, my gear and their gear was to a point where "if I messed up" they could still carry me. That being said, this is the same friend that just last night talked me out of suicide (on an unrelated and very much real life issue, to be clear), so it's a confusing friendship at times, to say the least.
    Sounds like you have some real life issues you should worry about more than the job you are playing... but if you like Smn then practice and if you don't try playing something else. I would say SMN is the hardest of all DPS jobs and it doesn't help that it is really hard to know if you are doing poorly. In DF I can tell pretty quickly who the bad dps are unless its a SMN.
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  3. #33
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    Elaine Blacksail
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 61
    I think you should stick with SMN aswell Its tricky.. getting the rotations down at first, but I really enjoy it also.. Look at some guides if you are confused on rotations or something.. you can only get better at a job the more you play it, not worse!
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  4. #34
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    Ninster's Avatar
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    Ninster Barlow
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Also take into consideration your friend and his static. It really depends on the type of progression they prefer. It's tough to be friends with someone in an MMO and their skill level isn't the same. Maybe he'd like to have you in his static, but then there are 6 others who are apart of that group. Hell, some statics don't even consider taking RL friend pairs/couples because of that is exact reason.

    If it's a casual group, then maybe there might be an issue, but if it's even taken a little seriously, it puts him in a tough spot as well. Just don't think he's not your friend if you can't join his group. He might feel just as bad that you can't join.

    To put it into some context, my very first static in this game was an FC static. We all had a good time and we're all really skilled players. Good at their roles and good at mechanics. However, 1 of our melee was not very good. Pretty bad actually. Wiped us repeatedly to same mistakes, low dps, etc. Only problem was, he was the FC & Raid Leader's cousin and they were really close. What do you do? Ask the guy to kick his cousin? Carry on wiping for weeks and weeks without progression? You think the raid leader knew he sucked? Probably, but what can you say? It's tough when issues like this happen. Just take that with a grain of salt.
    I understand this... well, it's not nepotism, but something else...

    Anyway, I understand this might be an issue, which is why I'm hoping to work on my own merits instead of causing this kind of problem. It's jarring to say the least when over a fair period of time I've been introduced and gotten to know the static members, and have even had my friend "call in the calvary" when it came to help me progress through main scenario content or somewhat beyond, but when I want to try out Sephirot EX it suddenly has to be a committee decision and my skill has to skyrocket. And they all seem to think well of me, although I'm unsure if this is on a personal level or as a player. None of them have questioned my competence to say the least in anything we've done.

    Perhaps what made this something bigger for me than it should be is I was literally hanging out with him and watching his static clear it. Being on PC, I don't have much option in terms of voice chat with PS4 players (that I know of, pardon the ignorance), but sitting right next to my friend would've been a perfect time if I was to be given a shot. Now that I'm back home from the visit... aside from possibly calling me personally to run it, I guess it's make new friends from scratch or sit out like he says until I'm ilvl 240 and can get carried if I screw up. Not exactly something I can be much proud of, though.
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    Last edited by Ninster; 03-17-2016 at 03:24 PM. Reason: It's 2016, get rid of the character limit

  5. #35
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    Garotte14's Avatar
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninster View Post
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    I'll shoot it to you straight. Not everyone is going to be the best at everything they do. Video games are no exception. In high end raiding you have to be able to see everything. Know where each of your party members are, what attacks the boss is casting, where you're standing, party list, your buff and effect timers, thinking about the next attack coming at you, all while maintaining your rotation with losing as little uptime as possible. It requires incredible multitasking skills and hand eye coordination. Not everyone is gonna have that skillset and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Now I don't know you're playstyle and skill level so that might not at all be the case with you. So with that being said, you have to have passion. I've played most of the classes in this game and enjoy the ones I've tried. And I can play them all pretty competently. But I'm no where near as good on my alts as I am on my main. And it's because of time and practice and experience. No one picks up a class and is a world first progression player. You have to study, research, experiment. Get experience by doing different fights. I have to relearn my opener in every raid because every fight is different. When 3.0 came out and I hit 60, I spent half the day on a striking dummy trying different things.

    So in conclusion, like everyone else has said, it takes hard work and practice and a lot of time to get to that level, so you should most definitely play a class that you're most passionate about.
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    Last edited by Garotte14; 03-18-2016 at 03:46 AM.

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