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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    That's really nice of everyone and everyone's reply is why I think this game has such a great community.
    That's nice of you to say, but I'm not sure I would go that far. Like any community, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Just don't forget that it was this same community that decided your house should be taken in the first place, no matter what happens to you in real life.

    If you felt like doing some reading on reclamation and how the community responded, here are a few links.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...E!!!-Thank-you!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...NOT-a-solution.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sing-announced
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    In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neira View Post
    That's nice of you to say, but I'm not sure I would go that far. Like any community, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Just don't forget that it was this same community that decided your house should be taken in the first place, no matter what happens to you in real life.

    If you felt like doing some reading on reclamation and how the community responded, here are a few links.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...E!!!-Thank-you!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...NOT-a-solution.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sing-announced
    I really don't think it was necessary to try to rile up the OP by pointing out that players (yes even myself) agreed with Housing reclaim. It comes off like starting a witch hunt. Just because some of us agree with the process doesn't mean we can't empathize.

    Your post implies that anyone who might have agreed with the reclamation system is a "bad" part of the community; which is simply not the case.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 03-16-2016 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    I really don't think it was necessary to try to rile up the OP by pointing out that players (yes even myself) agreed with Housing reclaim. It comes off like starting a witch hunt. Just because some of us agree with the process doesn't mean we can't empathize.

    Your post implies that anyone who might have agreed with the reclamation system is a "bad" part of the community; which is simply not the case.
    "Your house should be taken away."
    "Oh, I'm sorry your house was taken away."

    You can keep your damn empathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    "Your house should be taken away." "Those of us that agree with housing reclamation realize that the current housing model is a finite resource (for numerous factors that some don't agree with) that many players are wanting to take advantage of, so we understand the current necessity of recycling properties from inactive to active users."

    You can keep your damn empathy.
    I fixed it for you.

    My original point still stands. This shouldn't be turned into a witch hunt against players who agree with Housing Reclamation, nor should we be considered a "bad" part of the community for those views.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 03-16-2016 at 02:45 AM.

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    Ummm ok page 2 is starting to look bad.... To the OP, maybe if you have a friend with a house you could be their tenant you can still get the benefits of a house depending on what they allow you to do.
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    Can we turn this into a 50 page thread like the other ones were? In the great debate of the reclaim is it timer length
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    I do feel a little bad for starting this nonsense, but I felt worse hearing us, as the community, being complimented when this was all our fault in the first place. I'm not looking for another debate again, especially not with the infallible white knight, but I don't see how anyone can help but feel bad when someone who just lost their home and items in-game is thanking us when it's our fault in the first place. I feel bad, and I was fighting like hell to stop it, because I'm still part of the community. My personal home is still one less home that was available, which made more potential people who were clamoring for houses at any cost.

    We were all responsible for making this happen, whether we supported reclamation or not. Even prior to reclamation, I was trying to get new homes added, so with the concept of reclamation being thrown out by some users and other users like myself asking for more homes for the game, I was also in a roundabout way encouraging this system. The most any of us can do at this point is try to urge SE to get rid of the system or try to help those who came back to no home. The first ten posts were good, and I'm sorry if people feel like I ruined the topic with post eleven. It wasn't my intent to fan the flames, I just felt bad reading what they said.
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    In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    SE has not change the way it does business since the days of XI, so the stuff they do in XIV does not surprise me. SE can be ruthless.
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Thanks for the suggestions - I have not gotten into any crafts so I should look into it. My highest class is level 52 so I will need to get on levelling for void arc. That sounds like a lot of Gil for the effort.
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