I'm failing to understand how is there still opposition towards this o_x Its pretty much as Aquaslash said: why would someone who hasn't cleared join a party that's there to farm? and or what is stopping them from making their own parties? The option for no bonus isn't going to stop them from making their own parties or using DF (and yes EX primals can be cleared with DF; have done it myself at least with those before HW, Im not that far ahead) and as Andrea said, if the issue is just that it takes long to form a party---well it---really just takes a while overall to form a party. Not everyone feels like farming, not everyone feels like clearing, not everyone feels like learning---so in all those aspects it can and might take a bit to get your party going but for that you just need patience and time. It is still no valid excuse to jump into a farm party and lie when it states 'no bonus' or not just sending a tell to the PF leader if you know the fight @__@;