Please Add no bonus option for PF

[Singularity]

You seem to assume a farm party requires everyone to have cleared it. Unless you stated in the description must of cleared the fight, they are not actually lying are they?

Farm groups commonly include "no bonus" in their descriptions, which is functionally equivalent to saying "must have cleared"

[ScarletDawn]

Farm groups commonly include "no bonus" in their descriptions, which is functionally equivalent to saying "must have cleared"

So label it No first timers or must have achievement. Its easy to find their Achievements on the lodestone. If leaders are so bothered they will go and check up on their members. Again i don't see how not having bonus and having a kill means you will instantly be able to farm the fight, ive seen lots ppl constantly screw up who have cleared it many times. Just seems like a waste of time developing this system when perhaps they could add in a practice mode for players to train on, still does the same as ex but they must complete practice mode in order to enter Extreme to farm it.

That way people who wanna be carried can not sneak into a farm group.

[Launched]

So label it No first timers or must have achievement. Its easy to find their Achievements on the lodestone. If leaders are so bothered they will go and check up on their members. Again i don't see how not having bonus and having a kill means you will instantly be able to farm the fight, ive seen lots ppl constantly screw up who have cleared it many times. Just seems like a waste of time developing this system when perhaps they could add in a practice mode for players to train on, still does the same as ex but they must complete practice mode in order to enter Extreme to farm it.

That way people who wanna be carried can not sneak into a farm group.

Achievements are hidden by default and when someone does have a bonus the game doesn't say who it is, which wastes everyone's time as they try to figure out who it is. Restricting the PF to people with a clear doesn't guarantee everyone can do it with no mistakes, but those people are more likely to know the fight.

Your suggestion of a practice system is no different from making a learning party saying "new players welcome", while the OP's suggestion guarantees that people without a clear can't join and waste time.

[StouterTaru]

So label it No first timers or must have achievement. Its easy to find their Achievements on the lodestone. If leaders are so bothered they will go and check up on their members.

Does it really matter what the terminology is in PF? "No bonus" = "Must have clear"

Not everything people farm has an achievement, and making achievements pubic is disabled by default on the lodestone.

Pretend I'm hiring 7 people to do a job that requires a specific skill set. I post "must have degree and experience in related field." Should I hire anyone that applies for the job, because the education and experience doesn't mean you can perform the job, and lack of education and experience doesn't mean you can't perform it?

[RiceisNice]

So label it No first timers or must have achievement. Its easy to find their Achievements on the lodestone. If leaders are so bothered they will go and check up on their members. Again i don't see how not having bonus and having a kill means you will instantly be able to farm the fight, ive seen lots ppl constantly screw up who have cleared it many times. Just seems like a waste of time developing this system when perhaps they could add in a practice mode for players to train on, still does the same as ex but they must complete practice mode in order to enter Extreme to farm it.

That way people who wanna be carried can not sneak into a farm group.

That's entirely the problem. Even if you do put it up, it doesn't necessarily stop people from sneaking in or lying because there's no hard feature that prevents so. Not to mention achievements are lodestone are hidden by default.