Please Add no bonus option for PF

[ScarletDawn]

Joining a No bonus group when u havnt cleared is lying yes, joining a farm group who just says Farm/Clear or Farm is not lying as they havnt said No bonus, so why cant they instead of pointing out groups of people who have not cleared it by adding the option no bonus, rather do the same thing but worded differently.

IE Set it to farm group there is a option to set multi runs for loot why cant that check for bonus and not allow. That way a player doesn't instantly feel like they got shunned.

[Divine_Intervention]

I understand people wanting a no bonus option, but as per a discussion i had earlier with someone that had up a no bonus party, bonus doesn't equal incompetent. Occasionally you'll find your missing some amazingly skilled people by limiting.

[Andrea]

Joining a No bonus group when u havnt cleared is lying yes, joining a farm group who just says Farm/Clear or Farm is not lying as they havnt said No bonus, so why cant they instead of pointing out groups of people who have not cleared it by adding the option no bonus, rather do the same thing but worded differently.

A farm group is there to farm, that is the bottom line. If you know you can farm and still have yet to get a clear send them a message and see if they want to take a chance. If however you have not gotten the clear yet and know you do not have the ability to farm it like the party expects you are just plain rude and deserve to be removed from the group.

I understand people wanting a no bonus option, but as per a discussion i had earlier with someone that had up a no bonus party, bonus doesn't equal incompetent. Occasionally you'll find your missing some amazingly skilled people by limiting.

Its not about people with a clear = 100% clear rate. It is simple facts that there are more people with a clear of something that know what they are doing than those who don't have a clear. Are there some that get carried and don't know what they're doing? of course.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I fully support this. I despise people who try and sneak in farm only parties when they haven't cleared.

[Singularity]

No need to add coding to the game that checks a character's data to see if they have a clear for a fight and then factors that into whether or not they can join a PF group which requires that they have the clear. This also eliminates the need to add a special option to party finder that would prevent player's who do not have a clear from being able to join. Due to the number of fights available, I can see coding the game to perform the function that is being requested as being quite time consuming and that time could be better spent elsewhere, in my opinion.

The game must already have a function that checks whether a player has cleared a certain instance (in order to determine whether to show a bonus message) and a function that checks eligibility to join a PF group (in order to check iLvl and whether their job fills an available slot). It would most likely be a simple matter to call the former from the latter.

[RiceisNice]

Joining a No bonus group when u havnt cleared is lying yes, joining a farm group who just says Farm/Clear or Farm is not lying as they havnt said No bonus, so why cant they instead of pointing out groups of people who have not cleared it by adding the option no bonus, rather do the same thing but worded differently.

IE Set it to farm group there is a option to set multi runs for loot why cant that check for bonus and not allow. That way a player doesn't instantly feel like they got shunned.

And again, in our current state, people are doing the former, bolded statement. The reason behind OP's request is to prevent that from happening.

[MeridaQ]

Well now that I have caught up yes I agree joining a farm without a clear or communicating this is not the best method. I would then point out what we enjoy is playing and clearing content. This kind of fighting doesn't help that, I would suggest if you can set aside time. Teach people, the more people that learn the better and less frustrating the community will be. See Jp servers, I will put together a LS on Ultros to help teach people all the fights. If interested pm me. Good luck other worlds!!! (beginners hall 3.2)

[Geula]

I'm surprised by OP calling people without a clear "bonus" while being on a long-time crusade defending bad playstyles on all fronts.

[Odett]

I'm surprised by OP calling people without a clear "bonus" while being on a long-time crusade defending bad playstyles on all fronts.

I guess it's different when the people he vehemently defends are the ones wasting his time now

[CyrilLucifer]

Since my last post in this thread, I had a farm group disband because they saw a sneaky bonus.

Thanks bonus sneakers, you've just wasted everyone's time waiting in PF by lying and not saying anything about it! I am especially bitter about this because Healer slots for Ex primals in my server's PF are snatched up very, very quickly. So you just made it so that I couldn't join another farm party because there's no space for another hour or more.

Thanks! I really appreciate your thoughtlessness. It really made my day better.

The entire crux of the issue is new players aren't going to be allowed in the party anyway because in many cases they will cause wipes and waste everyone's time. There's nothing elitist about not wanting your time wasted; everyone's time is valuable.

On a side note, being able to clear SephEx is not necessarily the same as being able to farm him, either. I learned SephEx really well clearing him, but I didn't truly become skilled until I farmed him. There are just little tricks you learn to make yourself more efficient. I actually helped people in clear parties so that I could smooth out everything and be positive I wasn't a burden on anyone as well. When joining parties in PF, you learn which parties to avoid specifically because of this.

Take the chance and ask. The absolute worst that can happen from asking is that you'll get denied. Don't sneak, that's at best rude and at worst a huge time waster for all 8 people involved, yourself included.

I agree with the post a few pages back. This isn't even something that should be a debate at all.