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  1. #1
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    ScarletDawn's Avatar
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Farm groups commonly include "no bonus" in their descriptions, which is functionally equivalent to saying "must have cleared"
    So label it No first timers or must have achievement. Its easy to find their Achievements on the lodestone. If leaders are so bothered they will go and check up on their members. Again i don't see how not having bonus and having a kill means you will instantly be able to farm the fight, ive seen lots ppl constantly screw up who have cleared it many times. Just seems like a waste of time developing this system when perhaps they could add in a practice mode for players to train on, still does the same as ex but they must complete practice mode in order to enter Extreme to farm it.

    That way people who wanna be carried can not sneak into a farm group.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    But still the OP should make an alt solution then to ban people from parties, maybe do what i suggested and have a Practice icon or mode.
    There's already an option to "ban people from parties" based on their ilvl, and that is much less of an indicator of how good you would perform than having cleared the content previously.

    I would support making SSS results publishable in game, so that dps can provide a reason why they should be considered for a farm party without a clear.
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    Princess Andrea
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    But still the OP should make an alt solution then to ban people from parties, maybe do what i suggested and have a Practice icon or mode.
    Forgive me for asking but what purpose would a practice icon serve that you couldn't put in the PF description?
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    Klarity Sincerity
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    Lamia
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    Not a bad idea except that having cleared something does not mean you are any good at it. People can be carried through a lot of content in this game.
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    Not a bad idea except that having cleared something does not mean you are any good at it. People can be carried through a lot of content in this game.
    We already went over this some pages back. Having a clear may not mean that you know the fight, but at the very least it guarantees that you've seen the whole thing. If you don't have a clear but feel confident, you can always talk to the party leader. Sneaking into the party without saying anything and going against the PF leader's wishes is not the answer.
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    MugenMugetsu's Avatar
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    Mugen Mugetsu
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 60
    I think a simple solution would be to have getting the win for the first time be an achievement which someone could see on your Lodestone profile. Then if anyone joins, or requests to join a PF group, anyone in the party could simply look that person up on the Lodestone, check out their achievements and if they don't see the achievement for getting the clear for whatever fight the PF is for they can either kick that person from the party or deny them the ability to join.

    No need to add coding to the game that checks a character's data to see if they have a clear for a fight and then factors that into whether or not they can join a PF group which requires that they have the clear. This also eliminates the need to add a special option to party finder that would prevent player's who do not have a clear from being able to join. Due to the number of fights available, I can see coding the game to perform the function that is being requested as being quite time consuming and that time could be better spent elsewhere, in my opinion.

    It seems that the easier solution would be to have achievements for clears and then the ability for that information to be available on a character's Lodestone profile.
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    Last edited by MugenMugetsu; 03-16-2016 at 02:32 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    Oh boy, I can't wait for the update where Ramuh drops out of the sky like "sup dawg, we gon fight up in dis tree to see who da most swoll in da woods".
    "Be excellent to each other."

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    Ariane Aster
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    Quote Originally Posted by MugenMugetsu View Post
    No need to add coding to the game that checks a character's data to see if they have a clear for a fight and then factors that into whether or not they can join a PF group which requires that they have the clear. This also eliminates the need to add a special option to party finder that would prevent player's who do not have a clear from being able to join. Due to the number of fights available, I can see coding the game to perform the function that is being requested as being quite time consuming and that time could be better spent elsewhere, in my opinion.
    The game must already have a function that checks whether a player has cleared a certain instance (in order to determine whether to show a bonus message) and a function that checks eligibility to join a PF group (in order to check iLvl and whether their job fills an available slot). It would most likely be a simple matter to call the former from the latter.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MugenMugetsu View Post
    No need to add coding to the game that checks a character's data to see if they have a clear for a fight and then factors that into whether or not they can join a PF group which requires that they have the clear.
    There's already code that checks whether or not you've already cleared a fight and if you haven't it pops up a bonus message.

    All this would require is a modification to PF so that it's able to access that information.

    It seems that the easier solution would be to have achievements for clears and then the ability for that information to be available on a character's Lodestone profile.
    That information is available on Lodestone profiles, but not every fight has an achievement.

    Not to mention, Lodestone profiles are hidden by default.
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    There's already code that checks whether or not you've already cleared a fight and if you haven't it pops up a bonus message.

    All this would require is a modification to PF so that it's able to access that information.



    That information is available on Lodestone profiles, but not every fight has an achievement.

    Not to mention, Lodestone profiles are hidden by default.
    Also, who would want to look up everyone's lodestone every time they wanted to farm?
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    Also, who would want to look up everyone's lodestone every time they wanted to farm?
    Pretty much, getting 7 people is already bad enough, but having to manually "background check" them? Ugh.

    It'd make me even less likely to farm in PF and just stick to my linkshell/FC.
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