Quote Originally Posted by Sayboar View Post
A lower craftsmanship threshold is good but it's also longer and it doesn't have an extra touch unless I'm counting wrong (the one I posted substitutes a hasty for an innovative touch). It also uses Ingenuity I instead of II
I also only counted 10 touches (one of Lilpai's wasa special touch which can trigger innovation). You are loosing Ingenuity II and using Ingenuity I so you're loosing some quality.

Likewise its a three star approach. We're attempting to build a better four star approach. I'm still looking at this as Say and my approaches have on hasty outside SHII (or you can put Byregots outside SHII which I think is better quality on average)