Heavensword 3* Crafting Rotation and Macro

[Katlyna]

Tried out Rath's rotation today on some new 3.3 items. It looks very doable on an unmodified rotation however you might need to start with at least 1500-2000 quality if you want to hit 100% with a window of maybe 2 missed hasties. In my experience you might want to reclaim if you miss 3 hasties if you really want 100% hq then just botch it unless you have a high starting quality. If you can get a ToT in to use an Inno at the end it might be enough to compensate bad RNG.

I pretty much concur. This is why I advice simply starting with 3000 quality allowing you to miss three hasty touches on the new i190+ items. I also have loaded reclaim as these synths are a bit more intense, and I've had some horrible rng starting off. I like having innovate loaded more as its easier to push an 80-90% to 100. But with back to back 5-6 missed hasties on one day... I had to make the flip. Irony of coarse is I haven't had a single missed hasty sequence since that day. Hurray for RNG.

[-Nimeria-]

I know this is off-topic but how do you get those awesome pictures to go with your rotations?

[MariaNyan]

Want to share a rotation i'm working at for a while now:


Basically finishes 3star mats way faster with a decent HQ chance.
Unlike what the simulator suggests, it actually finishes the craft.

(Simulator) CS under IngenI 164

MuMe 544
PbP 365
CS under IngenI 204
544+365+204+204+204+204=1725 Progress.

Hope it helps.
Cheers,
Maria Nyan

EDIT: Basically a modified version of your MuMe+PbP Rotation but unlike simulator suggests it works.

[tayler1480]

An alternative if you don't have the craftsmanship requirements for the above, it does require more CP however

[Katlyna]

I know this is off-topic but how do you get those awesome pictures to go with your rotations?

From http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/simulator

Its the most accurate tool online I'm aware of for crafting simulation.

[Katlyna]

Want to share a rotation i'm working at for a while now:

You're basically coming closer to a rotation my friend and I worked on. Its on the first page but I should have created a separate thread for rotation. It also works on the new i190 with 933+ Craftsmanship.

MuMe PbP (1-3 Star Max CP) - Required stats 874 Craftsman and 446 CP (Character base stats 846 Craftsman, 398 CP and HQ Baked Onion Soup):

[Hayward]

Question: How can these rotations be adjusted when the RNG machine decides you won't HQ your item? Until Hasty Touch's success rate gets raised to 60~65%, this is going to be an issue and something that will keep me away from even considering crafting beyond 1*. Materials are way too expensive for a computer algorithm to decide whether I succeed or throw my laptop out the window (ok, I'm just kidding about that. MacBooks aren't exactly cheap).

[Cleanse]

Question: How can these rotations be adjusted when the RNG machine decides you won't HQ your item? Until Hasty Touch's success rate gets raised to 60~65%, this is going to be an issue and something that will keep me away from even considering crafting beyond 1*. Materials are way too expensive for a computer algorithm to decide whether I succeed or throw my laptop out the window (ok, I'm just kidding about that. MacBooks aren't exactly cheap).

The more HQ mats you use, the less Hasty Touches you need to succeed? Honestly, the chance for a craft to not HQ is really low with a lot of these rotations people post. Especially if you're trying to use as many HQ as you can.

Near the end of most of these rotations there is a spot before you Byregots to Reclaim if you feel it's worth the 10% risk.

[tayler1480]

Question: How can these rotations be adjusted when the RNG machine decides you won't HQ your item? Until Hasty Touch's success rate gets raised to 60~65%, this is going to be an issue and something that will keep me away from even considering crafting beyond 1*. Materials are way too expensive for a computer algorithm to decide whether I succeed or throw my laptop out the window (ok, I'm just kidding about that. MacBooks aren't exactly cheap).

It's possible to completely avoid RNG(100% hq no matter what) with endgame gear & using e.g. all hq mats (even for the i190 gear). The downside to this is having to use hq mats which can be annoying to gather/craft & will generally cost more gil & take more time to do so, but I suppose that's the trade off if you want that reassurance.

I guess the above doesn't really help much though, if you're afraid of nq'ing a final craft every once in a while then I'd assume:

- you don't have the gear requirements to always 100% hq using no RNG skills (for a lot of people the gear is expensive)
- nq'ing a final craft will impact you a lot compared to others e.g. those with a lot of gil could probably shrug it off where as you stated you'd want to throw your "laptop out the window".

I just wanted to mention that you could craft without having to rely on RNG.

Also like to mention there are reasons to craft beyond 1* even if you nq every time e.g. On ragnorak(so will vary server to server), nq camphor sells for about 5-15k more than what the mats(including clusters) are worth. Doesn't sound like much but say if it somehow took you 1 hour to craft 100 & profit per craft is 5k. It's still easy profit let's say (100*5k)-5% tax = 475k profit.

[Katlyna]

Question: How can these rotations be adjusted when the RNG machine decides you won't HQ your item?

Marshal/Cleanse answer is spot on. Statically though with around 1500 starting quality this will have a 95-99% chance of HQ depending on your attention to ToTs and good procs. Around 3000 quality it will be around 99% and at 5000 quality it should be around 99.9%.

So traditionally speaking what I do is make multiple materials at once for my different crafts, then mix the NQ and HQ till I have a comfortable amount of quality to hit HQ nearly 99% of the time. That is how you approach the issue.

But NQs do happen even to the best. I often get overconfident and start with no quality, no food or other silly things and sometimes end up with NQs... I still get REALLY upset even though its my own stupid fault for not preparing properly.