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    Player Vaeria's Avatar
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    Devil Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 80

    Feast Jobs That Make Ya Wanna Praise or Punch A Baby

    Just to be able to hear second opinions on the above, just thought Id ask which jobs make you happiest to see on team, and saddest?

    For me, as a melee...probably happiest to see an ast on team regardless of team setup. Theyre annoying but a skilled ast can tank better than a normal tank.

    Currently, brd is the one job that seems like it should be removed from pt altogether. Get next to one and they turn to mana drains for the healer immediately.
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I get happy when I see an AST haha
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    Momita's Avatar
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    Momo Ochita
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    brd and blm, remove it, yes please.

    i don't wanna be an a**hole, probably if well played they are good... but for now i've found only MEH..
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    Momo Ochita From Ragnarok

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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    When I get a BLM I feel like I'm down a DPS.
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    When I get a BLM I feel like I'm down a DPS.
    Many, many, many ppl feel this way. No one wants to see a blm on their team. By far much worse than brd on avg. By roles as teammates for me (from the standpoint of me being melee):

    Tank: Paladin > Warrior >> Dark knight (Love paladin but wont complain if I get war either. Dark knight feels kinda lack luster but they can tank with medals well too)
    Heal: Astrologian >= White mage >>> Scholar (Truth be told I'd rather have a whm over ast if the whm is skilled since whm cc is pretty beast in there but alas skilled whm are rare. I cringe a little though when i get sch)
    Ranged: Summoner > Machinist >> Bard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black Mage (If i see a blm in party it feels like a loss already. Have only run into 1 skilled blm in my 35 matches thus far)
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    Last edited by Dimitrii; 03-14-2016 at 04:45 AM.

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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    No one said DRK right now?
    Morethan once as SCH I was able to cast Adlo on me, cast adlo on a party member, then cast adlo again on me and the DRK wasn't still able to break it (I had 20% buff... but it was still strange to me)

    Right now I like more to have a DRG or MNK in party than a Nin,
    for ranged I'm still in love with SMN, but this is just a personal opinion.
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    The only two good ranged classes are SMN and MCH. SMN is ridiculously strong, In fact smn is so strong that you absolutely want a monk to one ilm them asap otherwise they are probably the strongest DPS in game especially if they take both offense and defense.
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
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    Pretty much exactly this, although there are a few jobs that can flip flop around depending on how skilled the player is.

    War and Pld are almost interchangeable to me. Pld has more team utility (though that utility is split across healer support or Dps support), but War isn't far behind and makes up for the difference with higher dps. In terms of healer harassment, a good War can actually exceed a Pld. Their high dps pressures the healer to split their attention to healing themselves, rather than just get a temporary interruption from a stun. I've seen them used to great effect this way.

    In regards to healers, in general it's always nice too see an Astro in the group just because they can tank their own dmg without needing someone to hold their hand and baby sit them. That said, the absolute best healing that I've ever seen in a Feast match so far was from a Whm who knew how to rotate their Fluid Aura + Repose. I never had the fortune of playing with this player (go figure), but they have definitely been the most annoying healer to play against, so far.

    As for dps, I'm with omst people here. For ranged dps Smn or Mch are the preferred choice. Brd is alright, but I'm not all that happy to see them. Blm's are scrapping the dirt off the floor below the barrel. I, too, have only seen one Blm who was actually an asset to the team and outputted good dps numbers. The rest of them have been a tremendous loss to dps, and almost guarantees the loss of the match.

    Melee dps is a little trickier. The team compositions (both for and against) really decides which melee I'm happy to see. For example, if the tank is a War, then I'm very happy to see a Nin. If the enemy ranged is a smn, then I hope to see a mnk on my team. If the ranged is a brd, then they pair best with a drg. etc. I can't really pick one over the other arbitrarily, because the team comps make a big difference to how much utility they have.
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    The only two good ranged classes are SMN and MCH. SMN is ridiculously strong, In fact smn is so strong that you absolutely want a monk to one ilm them asap otherwise they are probably the strongest DPS in game especially if they take both offense and defense.
    This is true, but Smn's also have a major downside. If you have a Smn on your team then it is almost required for them to take the def buff at the start of the match, because, otherwise, they'll die.

    Smn's are very strong, but they're a glass cannon. Some of the fastest ending matches I've seen so far are ones in which my Dps team jumped the Smn immediately and pounded them into oblivion. If you can't kill them right away, then settle for their pet. That throws a wrench in the works too. Nine times out of ten, they are an asset and stand above everyone in dmg, but if you get a team who knows how to exploit their shortcomings then they can quickly turn into the weak link of the team and cost you the match.
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
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    The thing is glass cannon only applies if they're not defensively strong, however, paired with an AST and taking the defense buff they become a lot stronger than glass. Mind you they're still very much killable but your healer needs to be prepared for their burst as well. Smn was already too strong in FL this format is no different except it gives them access to a defensive buff.

    A good SMN is ridiculous. a bad summoner can still nuke one of your bad players before you can deal with it.

    The problem imo is that summoner is so good that I dread seeing another ranged.
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