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    Player JzBen's Avatar
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    Jz Ben
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    Ragnarok
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    Miner Lv 61

    State of healers in The Feast

    So people have had a few days to mess about in 60 arena, what is the current opinion on the state of healers in comparison to each other?

    I post this for a friend who really thinks at 60 SCH really requires greater levels of outplay than WHM&AST without really having as much tools for outplay as the other healers. CC wise WHM is best, with AST & SCH somewhat meh. While pressured, insta cast wise AST is king; interrupts affect them the least. WHM have a few insta heals on top of 2 free regen bubbles and an oGCD low CD knockback bind. SCH gets a finite lustrate/indom pool with free fairy buffs that require micro mid combat to hit everyone and a 2 minute poor mans fluid aura. Lastly Monk absolutely shuts down SCH where if you dont win fights in 20 seconds, you automatically lose them. WHM/AST dont have such hard and faceroll counters.

    Is it just us that thinks SCH lacks a little bit in their toolkit that makes it weaker than the other two healers at level 60 PvP?
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    Wtbgu'cum Chepgillolz
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    SCH certainly is the weakest of the 3 healers right now, WHM (if used by a skilled player) is currently the best. The nerf to asts noct shields really start to affect long drawn out fights, it is nigh on useless when facing a smn using bane.

    Although WHM lacks in insta-heals available, it has such a decent toolkit for dropping big heals and its CC is just so valuable being the only healer able to stun, knockback, bind, heavy and SLEEP.

    It's pvp abilites are pretty bad ass aswell

    AST really does perform well in the first 20 seconds of a fight, synastry + lightspeed + CO. If they go with the usual burst the fuck out of the ranged, that is see as the only time an ast really shines.

    AST's retrogradation is a really powerful pvp move, its a nice party trick but that's all it really is unless in some miracle you manage to rip aetherflow stacks off the smn whilst cleansing your teams full bind.
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    Last edited by whythehate; 03-14-2016 at 01:07 AM.

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    Asakura93's Avatar
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    Asakura Ny'en
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by whythehate View Post
    SCH certainly is the weakest of the 3 healers right now, WHM (if used by a skilled player) is currently the best. The nerf to asts noct shields really start to affect long drawn out fights, it is nigh on useless when facing a smn using bane.

    Although WHM lacks in insta-heals available, it has such a decent toolkit for dropping big heals and its CC is just so valuable being the only healer able to stun, knockback, bind, heavy and SLEEP.

    It's pvp abilites are pretty bad ass aswell
    Casual reminder that Sleep is kinda useless because your own team will break it for you. *sigh*
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    Momo Ochita
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Asakura93 View Post
    Casual reminder that Sleep is kinda useless because your own team will break it for you. *sigh*
    this. *sigh*
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    Momo Ochita From Ragnarok

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    Rhode's Avatar
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    Rhode Schaeffer
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    Friendly reminder that AST has an AoE stun
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    [QUde;3616651]Friendly reminder that AST has an AoE stun[/QUOTE]

    That really should only be used when lightspeed is available

    And yes it's annoying when pugs randomly wake people up -.-

    Edited due to daily limit.

    It extends lightspeed and MP regen if used when they are active.
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    Last edited by whythehate; 03-14-2016 at 05:32 AM.

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    Rhode Schaeffer
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by whythehate View Post
    That really should only be used when lightspeed is available

    And yes it's annoying when pugs randomly wake people up -.-
    It's an instant cast.
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    While its true that a skilled whm is the better healer its really easy to roll ast for solo q to get average more wins since random dps/teams still lacking to do something against them
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    Hades Pluto
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I healed the feast as whm, it was like crazy only died as a group in a total of 4, we won that round but it left me a little crazy, so many stuns and deathflares
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    Ema Voilerclaire
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 61
    As a SCH, my biggest beef is that Aetherflow can even be removed. A MNK, AST, or SMN can walk up and just take away a core part of your functionality. Against a group that recognizes that your stacks are gone, it's a lost battle. If the group is also smart enough to CC your fairy in all this... It just starts getting laughable.

    We have the most hard counters, if the other healers even have any. We're also punished after we die, getting our fairy back up before we can rejoin the fight.

    No native crowd control, either. I never thought I'd say this, but SCH needs to be thrown a bone.
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