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  1. #11
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    It may not be a huge advantage but there really is no denying that these people are just supporting the mass inflation of Market Board sells. People see the Zu mount sell for 20mil, everyone is going to keep posting for 20mil and only once these people start slitting throats and under cutting will you see it start to trickle down before it either shoots back up or people over saturate it to where your just better off giving it away. I've worked hard for my money, Ive crafted, sold shards/clusters/minions I won in rolls and all together I've just barely scrapped 10mil in my game time (sitting on 6mil now). When I see numbers like that I just shake my head cus I personally know I will never pay that, but I know those who are filthy rich and those who buy from RMT will when there really is no point to the prices.
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  2. #12
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I do understand most of your guys points actually. However it feels like you want me to just deal with it and i really wonder how you can say something like that. Using RMT is actually the worst someone can do to a game and yes, i did report even bots back in the day and this player is the only one i know who uses rmt, thats why i report him few times already. I love this game and i would like to have my fc and everything around me as clear as possible, why should i just ignore those things when i can change it or do something against it? Ignoring it would just be a defeat for all honest players and a victory for RMT in general. Surely only a drop on the hot stone, but every drop fills the bottle no?
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  3. #13
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Wearing 220 pentamelded is definitely not a proof he bought his gils. In fact, in a well-organized compagny, it does not cost a single gil to craft them.
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  4. #14
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    MomomiMomi's Avatar
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    I do understand most of your guys points actually. However it feels like you want me to just deal with it and i really wonder how you can say something like that. Using RMT is actually the worst someone can do to a game and yes, i did report even bots back in the day and this player is the only one i know who uses rmt, thats why i report him few times already. I love this game and i would like to have my fc and everything around me as clear as possible, why should i just ignore those things when i can change it or do something against it? Ignoring it would just be a defeat for all honest players and a victory for RMT in general. Surely only a drop on the hot stone, but every drop fills the bottle no?
    You didn't ignore him. You reported him. It's out of your hands now. Ignore and move on.
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  5. #15
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Too many people attacking the OP here (did you all buy your gil too?) for making a judgment call. I'm on the OP's side here. There's always been this hypocrisy around gil-selling versus gil-buying. The buyers tend to be ignored, while the sellers are apparently hated beyond reason, are the scum of the universe and need to die in a firey blaze by being shoved up Ifrit's colon.

    Let's be honest, the buyers are the reason the sellers exist. If anything, we should be taking action against the buyers MORE than the sellers. If there's no market, there's no one selling, it's simple cause and effect guys. So when someone brings up a perfectly legitimate argument, asking why SE isn't taking action, let's not pretend the OP is evil just because they did the right thing and reported it.

    Stuff like this only makes people less inclined to report buying, and that ultimately means more sellers to worry about. SE, get your RMT team together, and get investigating.
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  6. #16
    Player Gemma's Avatar
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    Saskia Sinwolf
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    -Snip-
    I agree, it's sad when the mentality among the community tends to be "How does it effect you?" "Ignore and move on" or (my favorite) "What are you the Bot Police?!".

    While I won't get into how those arguments do not work, I will say to OP that you did about as much as you can do sadly. You've reported him & now it's up to SE whether or not they investigate it & stick to their Policy. I've been in a similar boat where I've caught legitimate players using bot programs or have admitted to purchasing RMT gil & reported it, only to see them on the next day, and the next day, and the next day, -_-

    So my advice is as far as reporting goes, I don't think reporting again will do anything if you've already done it 5 times, so since said person is also in your FC I'd maybe try to have a talk with your FC Leader about it & see what they say. If they don't have a problem with it then you might have to think about if it's worth staying with a FC that approves of something you are against.
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    Last edited by Gemma; 03-14-2016 at 04:33 AM.

  7. #17
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    Mandoska-Beauregard's Avatar
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    Mandosa Hearst
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    Moogle
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    Fisher Lv 70
    SE don't perma ban the buyer, the seller is perma ban not the buyer "look the launcher".

    The buyer risk a 7 days max ban and all the gold erase
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    Tu brille aussi fort qu'un miroir de bordel

  8. #18
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    Spawnie's Avatar
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 80
    so you reported some1 numerous times you have more or less stated you dont like.. sounds like some1s got a grudge or bitter towards some1 lol
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  9. #19
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Banning somebody isn't so easy as looking at a report and then banning the person forever. They need to be able to prove it and that takes time reviewing logs and examining behaviours to determine if they are using RMT. I've seen people wrongly accused of being gold sellers in other games and just have their account deleted with no way of getting it back. These were top players on the server and worked very hard farming dungeons and selling drops for loads of gold or selling runs.

    Often when people get banned they start shouting about how they were wronged either way so SE has to be able to say they have proof they were correct in banning somebody otherwise it causes problems. You can't be involved in investigating things so it may seem that they are doing nothing they seem to do things in batches somewhat once they have enough proof they decide on a punishment for first time offenders they sometimes get a warning or a short term ban and others will get a perma ban right away.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 03-14-2016 at 08:01 AM.

  10. #20
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Unfortunately they take a very long time to ban, if they do it all all. There's people who've bragged in game, on forums, on websites & in videos about botting/hacking/cheating/buying gil. So much so, that there's far more evidence than a court case would require, yet they're still merrily playing in game. It doesn't portray the game in a good light.
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