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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbuni View Post
    When I reach my 120 bismarck ex I thought it was a lot of runs
    but after saw this thread, I may continue farm for it..

    oh and 99 tokens for a mount would be the best thing for unlucky me...
    It also seems to me, like the quality of players who are doing the dungeons now are getting worse. I suppose all the decent people have given up, or gotten their birds. Most times in bis ex, the tanks heads collective explode when it comes to needing to swap on the snakes (had one tank who didn't even have provoke and then complained that they couldn't do the content because they didn't want to level gld to 22), people just flat out refuse to use the dragon killers, or players who are magical or ranged jobs who refuse to even get on the whale, therefor negating any damage they could have done, ect, ect, ect.. I could go on. I have more than put in my time on keeping this content filled, giving a fail safe to RNG is necessary. Especially after I've done it 325 times.

    Throw us a bone SE.
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    Dorander, if you want swift efficient runs do what I did:
    1) PF
    2) ilvl 210 req. Why? Base/avg dps output is higher if the groups avg dps is higher. Also, LB is affected by group's gear if I'm not mistaken. You can only filter by gear, not skill level, sadly.
    3) Do not stack 5 bards or 5 machinists. Let 1 (max 2) in for the buffs, make the rest casters and melee. Try to have 1 dragoon and 1 ninja for trick attack and battle littany. Use a 2/1/5 composition.
    4) write the scariest (reasonable) PF message you can think of. Effective for scaring away the bad, the lazy and noob sympathizers. (At least on my server)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxea View Post
    Dorander, if you want swift efficient runs do what I did:
    1) PF
    2) ilvl 210 req. Why? Base/avg dps output is higher if the groups avg dps is higher. Also, LB is affected by group's gear if I'm not mistaken. You can only filter by gear, not skill level, sadly.
    3) Do not stack 5 bards or 5 machinists. Let 1 (max 2) in for the buffs, make the rest casters and melee. Try to have 1 dragoon and 1 ninja for trick attack and battle littany. Use a 2/1/5 composition.
    4) write the scariest (reasonable) PF message you can think of. Effective for scaring away the bad, the lazy and noob sympathizers. (At least on my server)
    Yeah, I've tried all that you've suggested. People have really lost interest in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    It also seems to me, like the quality of players who are doing the dungeons now are getting worse. I suppose all the decent people have given up, or gotten their birds. Most times in bis ex, the tanks heads collective explode when it comes to needing to swap on the snakes (had one tank who didn't even have provoke and then complained that they couldn't do the content because they didn't want to level gld to 22), people just flat out refuse to use the dragon killers, or players who are magical or ranged jobs who refuse to even get on the whale, therefor negating any damage they could have done, ect, ect, ect.. I could go on. I have more than put in my time on keeping this content filled, giving a fail safe to RNG is necessary. Especially after I've done it 325 times.

    Throw us a bone SE.
    This is a major issue on my server, a lot of have given up until drop rates increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality View Post
    This is a major issue on my server, a lot of have given up until drop rates increase.
    As I said before, make it so you can buy the mount for X totems and people would actually feel incentivized to do an occasional run, even if they won't put off relic farm for hardcore bird farm. I got lucky and got it on my 234th run. If you're in the worst 5% of luck range, you could need to do 500+ runs. And we all know why people wouldn't opt to do that over, say, leveling an alt or farming for a relic weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxea View Post
    As I said before, make it so you can buy the mount for X totems and people would actually feel incentivized to do an occasional run, even if they won't put off relic farm for hardcore bird farm. I got lucky and got it on my 234th run. If you're in the worst 5% of luck range, you could need to do 500+ runs. And we all know why people wouldn't opt to do that over, say, leveling an alt or farming for a relic weapon.
    Like I said lol..I'm now at like..250 runs and only seen the bird twice. I've given up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    It also seems to me, like the quality of players who are doing the dungeons now are getting worse. I suppose all the decent people have given up, or gotten their birds.

    Throw us a bone SE.
    Yeah this is true. Its kind of hilarious that they implement mounts to get people to run more pirmals and not have the content die out but the exact opposite has happened on NA servers. DF is a total bust with ppl dropping after a few runs and farm parties exclude people who need it to be cleared. Speaking form experience I've stopped running Bismark entirely outside of helping fc mates getting clears and have stuck to running ravana for the esos and mount as that is my favorite one of the bunch. I said it once and I'll say it again:

    LUCK =/= SKILL
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    331 Runs of bismark extreme, rolled a 96 and finally won.. I am never ever ever ever doing that dungeon again. This still needs to be a thing!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    331 Runs of bismark extreme, rolled a 96 and finally won.. I am never ever ever ever doing that dungeon again. This still needs to be a thing!!!!
    OMG! Dude, we have about the same luck. I won white lanner on my 330th run with a 94.

    The fact that it took THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY runs to get this mount is ABSURD. What about Sephirot and Thordan? Am I in for another 300 runs for those too? Especially when most seph farms dont even clear?

    I don't care if it's 99, 150, or even 200 totems. Make the OP's suggestion a thing! Nobody should be at the mercy of RNGesus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    OMG! Dude, we have about the same luck. I won white lanner on my 330th run with a 94.

    The fact that it took THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY runs to get this mount is ABSURD. What about Sephirot and Thordan? Am I in for another 300 runs for those too? Especially when most seph farms dont even clear?

    I don't care if it's 99, 150, or even 200 totems. Make the OP's suggestion a thing! Nobody should be at the mercy of RNGesus
    someone on the reddit forums did 709 ravana,he had an ss to prove it. I'd like to see if greedalox can respond with " Yes. /10char" if he had to go through that lmao.

    btw this thread makes sense LOL, https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rd_mounts_ive/
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