Why do people want Blue Mage in this game?

[Tanathya]

i'm sad for the bard and machinist that have to deal with this, i will have prefer yoshida to bring a true full support jobs than saying, people will not love to play it... even if people don't love to play it, some will have enjoy this sort of gameplay. but i digress.... the blue mage/vampire are not tailored for a mmorpg in the form we know it (from solo game) and don't give me FF11 as exemple since this game was well know for have a disastrous balance.

Well, FFXI was known for many things, but at this point, you know what? I'll take any lack of balance if the game actually gets fun. I'm sick of this so-called balance, which is actually BS in many spots, but still, this balance is so boring. Sure, all FFXI jobs had their moment to shine and their moment to collect dust, but it was fun, and since it had no trinity, you could still use them in one way or another. Everything is so not outside the box here, it's boring.

[MagiusNecros]

I was really happy when they balanced "Perfect Dodge", "Manawall".

You have no idea how happy I was. In fact I wasn't happy at all.

[Morningstar1337]

...i'm sad for the bard and machinist that have to deal with this, i will have prefer yoshida to bring a true full support jobs than saying, people will not love to play it... even if people don't love to play it, some will have enjoy this sort of gameplay. but i digress...

I feel like pointing out that this seems to be an issue inherent in how the game works. The combat revolves around all combatants being able to attack and kill enemies, which is why the "My First..." quests require you to kill enemies (as opposed to say...healing NPCs for CNJ), this also extends to a lesser extent to FATEs and Leves as 99% of them only have mobs to kill, not to heal or buff an in the few that do the charge immediately gets back to full health after combat (The escort missions) or just Zerg Rush the mobs to the point healing them is pointless (There is also the Defense FATEs, but I'll get to those later).

There's also the fact that the very first skill battle classes learn at level 1 are offensive in nature (Blizzard, Fast Blade, Stone, Ruin, True Thrust, ect).

My point is, the way the game focuses on damage, means that if a battle class wants to progress or gain experience, they would have to either party up with another player (something I sure would rile up those that prefer soloing in open world, or people that that don't like dependency where it doesn't exist for other classes) For a job that cannot attack to to work such as "Pure Support" classes would require another overhaul of the game, perhaps one on par with A Realm Reborn itself

[Niwashi]

For a job that cannot attack to to work such as "Pure Support" classes would require another overhaul of the game

Being a support class doesn't mean that a character can't attack any more than being a healer or a tank means they can't attack. It just means that's not their most useful feature in a group. Plenty of games have support classes that are essential for any sort of difficult content (and really helpful on the simpler stuff as well). They solo perfectly well because they then combine their support skills with their attacks, though in group play they're more effective focusing on their specialty and leaving most of the direct attacking for the damage dealers in the party.

[Yuni_Queen]

Wait, wait, no matter how far i look into that, Blu on all wikis (i didnt have a chance of playing FF game with BLU sadly) is a class that is using monster learned attacks.
If BLU would be implemented to FFXIV, no shit like that would ever happen, making the class another magic wielding class with basic combo you learn at level 4, which is Goblin Punch > Wolf's Bite. Your ultimate would be probably Vicious Goblin Punch. or stuff like that.

This kind of gamplay would be too goofy. While i understand ultimates summoning lolis from stars

(Peta-star - UnaspectedElement-Spell tier-IV - hilarious right? comes from Disgaea II)
This kind of goofines wouldn't fit in here. It would fit Disgaea, but not serious game like FFXIV (goofy aspects of the game are all sidequests. Except goofy entrance of Krile).

That's why BLU would be reduced to the state of Desert Dancer-like Mage. Or it would be so dull, idea would die itself with natural death.

[MagiusNecros]

Blue Mage is nothing like Disgaea. lol

[Yuni_Queen]

I wanted to give a compare to hilarious type of spell that would never have place in FF.
And Loli summon is a perfect example of wtf-spell that wouldnt work in FF.
Goblin Punch? Maybe Lost Lamb favourite fluff butt attack?

No...
It's just wrong. Monster based skills, it would have to be Primals based spells to make it normal.
BUt then, we already have primal attacks in FF.
Here goes SMN.

[MagiusNecros]

Blue Mage uses monster attacks. There is nothing cute or comical about Fire breath, Bubble Breath, Big Guard, Bad Breath, M-Missile, Lvl spells, Doom, Mind Blast, Death Claw, etc.

But knowing this dev team they would dumb down the class to make it a joke of what a Blue Mage is supposed to be.

[NaesakiAshwell]

Blue Mage uses monster attacks. There is nothing cute or comical about Fire breath, Bubble Breath, Big Guard, Bad Breath, M-Missile, Lvl spells, Doom, Mind Blast, Death Claw, etc.

But knowing this dev team they would dumb down the class to make it a joke of what a Blue Mage is supposed to be.

You are such an optimistic ray of sunshine, you've done nothing but beat the dev team down under the assumption everything will be butchered, cause apparently the definition of butchering has fallen off the face of the earth in this thread -____- I have never seen such negativity and pessimism.

[Krissey]

WHAT IF they made you go into dungeons and fight bosses and get hit their with attacks at least once so you learn it. Your job/class quest is to run a dungeon in party finder and get smashed by a boss but you learned a new skill then you unleash it right there. New and innovative and very cool yes?