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    Old mat/crafts

    Im curious if we will ever see a reduction of mats required for stuff like darksteel ingot, vanya silks and such, do we really need 9 coke, potash, animal fat, etc. still? My FC goes through 4-5 stacks of this stuff each when we do some upgrading to airships and not really seeing these kind of numbers in the newer crafts. Just glad these mats are cheap, my main fit is just the shear number we need and space all this stuff takes up when we save up...so yeah...
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    Does a coat going out of fashion make it take any less fabric to manufacture?

    Answer, No of course not.

    The fact that the materials become ridiculously cheap and easyer to get is really all the compensation you can, or should, expect with old recipies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Does a coat going out of fashion make it take any less fabric to manufacture?

    Answer, No of course not.

    The fact that the materials become ridiculously cheap and easyer to get is really all the compensation you can, or should, expect with old recipies.
    My response to this is the more skilled you get, you may be able to do more with less waste, and that's why you need less mats or can increase the yield. I think it would be a nice idea for some things.
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    If you have 3 stacks of coke, maybe it is time to craft them away instead of buy a 4th stack of coke. They are already cheap enough so you don't have to save them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Im curious if we will ever see a reduction of mats required for stuff like darksteel ingot, vanya silks and such, do we really need 9 coke, potash, animal fat, etc. still? My FC goes through 4-5 stacks of this stuff each when we do some upgrading to airships and not really seeing these kind of numbers in the newer crafts. Just glad these mats are cheap, my main fit is just the shear number we need and space all this stuff takes up when we save up...so yeah...
    Really? Do you know what it takes to make an Adamantite Ingot? Hell even base materials. One Dark Iron Nugget only requires 3 Dark Iron ore and 1 Iron ore. Adamantite nuggets require 5 Adamantite ore and 1 Dark Iron ore.

    More to the point Airships are supposed to be a major investment to upgrade. Frankly they are relatively new and current content.
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    Rather make the investment with fewer rarer mats than, mass abundant of cheap mats... Just one airship part needed almost like 6 stacks of x99 coke, for the darksteel and garlond. So when it comes down to it trying to do an airship set just packs the living daylights out of the inventory and chest. Also to say these crafts are out fashion isnt really true, still use a lot of these crafts regularly. Like I said I have a fit more about the space than anything else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Rather make the investment with fewer rarer mats than, mass abundant of cheap mats... Just one airship part needed almost like 6 stacks of x99 coke, for the darksteel and garlond. So when it comes down to it trying to do an airship set just packs the living daylights out of the inventory and chest. Also to say these crafts are out fashion isnt really true, still use a lot of these crafts regularly. Like I said I have a fit more about the space than anything else...
    The FC workshop projects are supposed to be group projects. Its supposed to be a large amount to gather so it is shared among multiple people. A small amount of rarer materials is more a project for a solo or small amount of highly geared players. It kind of defeats the purpose of having crafting projects for a FC.

    I will agree though that space is an issue. I've dealt with it by doing single projects at a time and clearing out anything not being used for the current or next project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    The FC workshop projects are supposed to be group projects. Its supposed to be a large amount to gather so it is shared among multiple people. A small amount of rarer materials is more a project for a solo or small amount of highly geared players. It kind of defeats the purpose of having crafting projects for a FC.

    I will agree though that space is an issue. I've dealt with it by doing single projects at a time and clearing out anything not being used for the current or next project.
    it's not a group project though since a lot of people in fcs do it alone since they are the only crafter/gatherer there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's not a group project though since a lot of people in fcs do it alone since they are the only crafter/gatherer there.
    That may be true but that's not how the system is designed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's not a group project though since a lot of people in fcs do it alone since they are the only crafter/gatherer there.
    and I can tell you it feels like a day at work, is easy to get burned out if nobody helps you in those FC project(s) that you are the only one or one of the two doing it.

    To a point there is no enjoyment anymore. People simply put arent all enclined to do gathering and crafting. Cant blame them, if it did feel less of a chore maybe there would be more people helping in this.

    Unfortunately, as it is today, is not the case
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