Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[Synrin]

I prefer not playing as healer then since DPS + Healer is my reason to main SCH.

I know right. I started reading this and thought, is he talking about me, until I came to the part where healer is raging about the tank. I wouldn't, I just throw some defensive spells and top him up, and back to the Cleric Stance I go. But I'm a scholar so Idk. I think it is easiest for scholars to dps.

[Heartley]

Healers are already struggling with accuracy checks, they can hit a few times now if they actually meld +acc materia but I doubt that is the devs design choice for healers.

Just wait till next patch or something when you need 750+ acc to even land a basic spell, then this thread will dissapear as the healers will not be able to hit a single dungeon or raid mob even if they meld acc in every single materia slot.

Cleric stance was designed to help healers level, not to carry awful dps.

And imo, it should be removed while in a group because the healers job is meant to heal, and the tanks job is meant to tank, hence the changes to tank dmg, healers are next, do your job properly or play a dps.

Can't count how many times I've seen wipes in basic dungeons because the healer thought there 1k crits meant something, left cleric on, and wiped the group, bad design and it needs correcting immediately.

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[Alistaire]

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If only this had been in the game from the start maybe we wouldn't have so many terrible lazy healers. Oh well.

[Tanathya]

If only this had been in the game from the start maybe we wouldn't have so many terrible lazy healers. Oh well.

Lazies are gonna be lazy no matter what. Even newbies who start now aren't gonna give a crap about that if they want to do the bare minimum.

[AngelicSence]

Since the new patch hit, I am usually ~30%, (25-35 depending on the quality of the DPS I am paired with), in expert roulette.

Btw, this is so important here also.. This word "quality" plays important role in the game. WHM is the best AoE DPS job out of 3 healers, AST only has gravity, but can throw in some buffs. Sch has only DoT AoE, but single target DoT and weak single target damage. So all healers are different. You can combine any random tanker/healer/DPS and depends on how skilled those players are, we will see big difference in party speed. If everyone cared about each other and understood what they can do with their class and how to strategize their tactics.. There will be not a single complaint today.

[Geula]

I can only speak as a low level schoolar and this is how I feel personally and it might differ from how people but dear [deity], Eos is such a healing machine that I can't imagine using it and not pretty much full time dpsing at levelling dungeons as long as the tank uses their cooldowns. I think I only had one instance where I had to stop dpsing because the tank pulled like 10 mobs in Brayflox which is of course something that you will have to heal. I don't usually watch what healers do and this is my first attempt at a healing class in any MMO but there is just so much downtime in need for healing that what could you possibly do in meantime? I actually get a bigger urge to dps as a healer than I do as a dps class. As long as everyone is avoiding the AoEs with tells a healer really doesn't have much to do from what I gather.

[AngelicSence]

Can't count how many times I've seen wipes in basic dungeons because the healer thought there 1k crits meant something, left cleric on, and wiped the group, bad design and it needs correcting immediately.

I hate to burst your bubble, but your story is irrelevant. It's like black mages who screwed up his rotation and wasted all mana on flare then failed DPS check. SE encourage healers to perform damage when it's possible. They gave WHM Aero3 and Assize because they specialized in AoE damage and heal. SE also planning to add +15/+18 materials and something more unique. If you can read Japanese, SE already said that their current plan is to balance every jobs. 1st, remove STR from tankers, make accuracy higher = while providing material choice. Whatever it's next, it won't be a CS removal. Just give it some time and you will see.

[Odstarva]

So what, healers should idle when there is nothing to heal?

Say what you will, but you're not doing your class any justice if you limit yourself to 4 or 5 skills out of 12.

[Ghishlain]

The best healers are those who make the most use of their time while performing their duties in the content they're participating in. This can include but not limited to:

1. Providing additional healing because the people they're partied with are playing terribly and they require more healing attention because of this
2. Providing additional DPS to the group because the group is performing well, handling mechanics appropriately, and tanks are mitigating as necessary. Healer's have the opportunity to add value to the group by providing additional DPS.
3. Allowing MP to regenerate. There's a particularly healing intensive section coming up soon and the healer notices they're a bit short on MP. Give everything a small break to prepare for the oncoming onslaught.
4. Etc.

The best healers in this game are always trying to think 3-4 steps ahead and understanding what actions to perform when to maximize their contribution to their group. These are also the type healer's all players should strive to become.

Healer's who refuse to DPS when the opportunities present themselves are lazy. The only exception I'll give to this is if the healer is new to the content because healer's only become better as they understand the intricacies of the content they're participating in. Otherwise, yes, you're performing your baseline role and I won't begrudge you for that but you certainly won't get my commend.

Likewise, other's who are pushing healer's to DPS harder when there are no opportunities to do so because the party play is so horrible the only thing a healer can do is heal need to shut up and man up to give the healer those windows else you're just as ignorant and/or lazy as the group above this paragraph. Healer DPS is a group thing. If the party isn't performing well, then that limits how often a healer can enter Cleric Stance (if at all).

If you aren't actively attempting to become better as player and/or healer and find those opportunities that allows you to perform much better, then please stop whining and go away.

[Rinuko]

My stand in this question regardless its raiding or a 4-man dungeon a healer is there first most to heal party members and Not DPS