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  1. #101
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    Tyrial's Avatar
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    So... your point is that dps doing extra dps is optional?
    No, he's saying that we shouldn't be expecting anyone to do anything outside of the base function of their job. This is all well and good, but definitely not the ideal way to play and not what the Devs had in mind when they designed all of the jobs.

    People are only "bad" if they have the ability to do something but willingly choose to do only the bare minimum.
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  2. #102
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I guess no one knows what the word optional means.
    DPS auto-attacking will get the job done.

    Yeah, I don't think so. Only auto-attacking is unacceptable.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I guess no one knows what the word optional means.
    Oh we know what it means. It's just that optionally choosing to do nothing but healing in a situation where you don't need to heal is an utter waste of potential.

    I can literally go on Sch, get Selene out and have her solo heal the entire thing. If I did that, if I let the fairy do everything, but I OPTIONALLY chose to not DPS, what would you say to that?
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  4. #104
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    I don't know about you guys, but the norm for me has always been to stick my hands in my pockets and watch three other people play the game without my input. I mean, if you don't need the heals, I'm fine just watching. If you really need healing though, please say something with raid warning noises, or I might not pull my head out of my phone in time to cast a regen or whatever.
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  5. #105
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    Adolf Weismann
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Oh we know what it means. It's just that optionally choosing to do nothing but healing in a situation where you don't need to heal is an utter waste of potential.

    I can literally go on Sch, get Selene out and have her solo heal the entire thing. If I did that, if I let the fairy do everything, but I OPTIONALLY chose to not DPS, what would you say to that?
    I've actually been asked this very question before and I'll say now what I said then. As long as your fairy doesn't let us die I really don't care. I would t care if your fairy let us die either as long as they could raise us but of course they can't do that.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I've actually been asked this very question before and I'll say now what I said then. As long as your fairy doesn't let us die I really don't care. I would t care if your fairy let us die either as long as they could raise us but of course they can't do that.
    That's bullshit and you know it. You'd think I was lazy, getting carried, not pulling my weight.

    Or are you saying that as long as the boss dies, and I'm only autoattacking , you wouldn't care either?
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  7. #107
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I've actually been asked this very question before and I'll say now what I said then. As long as your fairy doesn't let us die I really don't care. I would t care if your fairy let us die either as long as they could raise us but of course they can't do that.
    We get it. You're a bad healer, and you condone others being bad healers. Thanks for your contribution to the topic.
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  8. #108
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    Nexas Uthenera
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    IMO, Heal when you should. Dps when/if you can.
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  9. #109
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    Adolf Weismann
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    We get it. You're a bad healer, and you condone others being bad healers. Thanks for your contribution to the topic.
    Yeah cause healers not dpsing makes them bad. I dps in all casual content out of boredom not needing to heal all the time so don't think I'm bad just because I think a certain way is acceptable. I'm also pretty sure if I was that bad I wouldn't have been able to clear Seph EX as a WHM. Oh you know what? I didn't dps in the run I cleared in because I wasn't comfortable with the fight and when to time heals. If I had chosen to dps instead of focusing on keeping people alive we would have wiped even more. Please do go on, this is vastly entertaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    That's bullshit and you know it. You'd think I was lazy, getting carried, not pulling my weight.

    Or are you saying that as long as the boss dies, and I'm only autoattacking , you wouldn't care either?
    Some days I really don't care. If auto attacks could get the job done I'm fine with it. It depends on my mood at the time. Yes I'm serious.
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  10. #110
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
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    You don't need to heal for pretty much half of phase 3, as soon as the might and magic buffs are on everyone is practically immortal. You can figure this out the first time you're in there, if, in future runs you're choosing to not dps in that phase I would personally call you out on it. You're actually more likely to cause a wipe in that instance since that phase is a huge dps check.

    Do go on.
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