Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[TheUltimateSeph]

Oh god.

Can't we just agree that a healer that doesn't dps is average while a healer that does DPS and heal is good? >.<

Never! Wouldn't get 200+ page popcorn threads otherwise. :P

[Lukha]

Oh god.

Can't we just agree that a healer that doesn't dps is average while a healer that does DPS and heal is good? >.<

No, a healer that doesn't DPS at all is bad unless there's a very good reason for it (new to or very undergeared for the run. Sometimes in 8-man content healers will agree that one will solo-heal while the other goes all out on DPS unless something goes wrong). There is very little content in the game that requires you to constantly heal, so if you're not dpsing because you can't find the time between heals, you're probably doing something wrong (which means you're bad), and if you're got plenty of time between heals and aren't DPSing, you're lazy (which also makes you bad).

An 'average' healer would be one that just dots whatever the tank is hitting and goes back to healing/waiting to heal. A 'good' healer is one who contributes meaningfully to DPS without actually letting anyone die.

[Silica-chan]

Do you mind DPS who don't bother to dodge any not-immediately-lethal AOEs and refuse to use self-healing? I mean, worrying about HP pools and damage taken isn't *THEIR* responsibility. Doing those things exist just to help with solo MSQ fights!

Well the MSQ kinda tells people they don't need to since there is usually an npc healing you most of the time. And to answer your question I don't mind them as long as they dodge the ones that would kill them instantly.

And just to clear things up I never said that I don't want healers to do damage or that I think they shouldn't I'm just saying I do not mind if they don't for whatever reason they have..

[MomomiMomi]

Oh god.

Can't we just agree that a healer that doesn't dps is average while a healer that does DPS and heal is good? >.<

Just curious, what would you consider a SCH who puts /follow on the tank and goes afk in low level dungeons to be? They'd be doing their job. Are they average?

[Breezelyn]

As a someone who does dps as a healer, it really depends on the situation(s) you're in.

-Party isn't taking too much damage? DPS DPS DPS when you see the window.
-Party is taking a lot of damage? Less focus on DPsing and keeping people's HP up as high as possible. (Good example is A8. All that party AoE damage...)

There's different situations for each person who heals. I generally like to add a bit of DPS when no one is taking too much damage. My main priority is keeping the party's vitality up as high as possible. DPSing is second to me, but I do throw it when I feel comfortable the tank and/or DPS isn't gonna die.

I'd rather not spend 2.6k MP on a dead DPS or Tank, if I tunnel vision with DPSing. Just my opinion

[Andrea]

Just curious, what would you consider a SCH who puts /follow on the tank and goes afk in low level dungeons to be? They'd be doing their job. Are they average?

They are being lazy.

Of topic however I love how people are trying to make it seem like I said something that I didnt lol.

Do I think healers should DPS? Yes whenever they get the chance.

Do I think that a healer who doesn't dps is garbage? No, because there could be reasons why they arent dps. They good be new, learning the class, ect...

Do I think that if you've reached expert roulette and still aren't dpsing you're an average healer? No. You should of learned by then how and when to dps.

[MomomiMomi]

I love how people are trying to make it seem like I said something that I didnt lol.

Do I think that if you've reached expert roulette and still aren't dpsing you're an average healer? No. You should of learned by then how and when to dps.

Contradicts your last post.

[Pells]

Oh god.

Can't we just agree that a healer that doesn't dps is average while a healer that does DPS and heal is good? >.<

Probably not, because people want to make it a polarizing issue. Instead of a spectrum of excellent, good, average, poor, bad, or what have you; people will stick with simply good/bad. I believe it's largely because it's easier to villify other players that way.

[Andrea]

Contradicts your last post.

Let me clear up my opinion then.

If you are at 60, geared to the level where you are able to do expert roulette and still not dpsing, you are indeed bad at the class.

If however you are learning the class, still new to the game or new to a certain instance, I do not feel it fair to categorize them as bad at the class.

Maybe I worded it horribly IDK.

[MomomiMomi]

Let me clear up my opinion then.

If you are at 60, geared to the level where you are able to do expert roulette and still not dpsing, you are indeed bad at the class.

If however you are learning the class, still new to the game or new to a certain instance, I do not feel it fair to categorize them as bad at the class.

Maybe I worded it horribly IDK.

This I can agree with.