Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[Pomelo]

I'm mostly in Cleric Stance throwing out gravity, dots and cards. I'd do exactly the same as the healer in the OP and let you drop that low, before using Essential Dignity. (Ofc I probably have HoT's ticking as well) but the healer mentioned in the OP is nowhere near bad.

[Gokuhan]

I dps and play very aggressive as a healer because I enjoy it and have fun playing that way because if I did nothing but heal in dungeons I would be bored to tears. While I do dps, healing and ensuring that everyone in the group is alive and free of debuffs is my top priority and the only time I can remember a tank dieing under my care was when he DCed and ate half a dozen AOEs at once.

That aside, while your healer was probably being a jerk, tanks SHOULD use their defensive CDs. Too many tanks I see tend to ignore them because they figure the healer will get them through it.

[Whiteroom]

As others have said it has been the norm for a very long time now. I have been doing it since Instarted healing. And, no, healers who don't dps are not player their job to the fullest.

easily the most stupid thing I have ever read, like ever.

show me a healer that can out dps a Warrior. while maintaining group health pools ><

A WHM who doesn't know WHM aoe is king... I can do 1K dps in sss, and that's single target. Put me in a group of adds where I can holy/aero III/ Assiez and no tank will touch a whm dps. And all you need in dungeons nowadys is essentially a regen on the tank, and tetra/ cure II when he dips down a ways.

[odintius]

Let's be honest here anything outside of savage difficulty is a joke in this game giving healers and tanks plenty of time to DPS. If it was increased you be more focus on healing and tanking and some dpsing when can squeeze it in.

[Kaurie]

Maybe we need to spend less time passing blame and fault to one another. I'm not sure it ever actually succeeds in improving player performance and just makes everyone miserable.

[Odett]

The healer came off as a bit of a jerk, but they're absolutely right; they're taking advantage of their entire toolkit to meet their minimum role requirements as well as making monsters die faster. If you're a tank and don't even use one of the many defensive cooldowns you have, you're a pretty crappy tank. Healers are not there to babysit or carry you.

[Kaurie]

To confirm my post from before, I tested actual numbers today in my expert roulette:

Number of Physicks cast: 1
Number of Adlo's cast: 16
Number of Succor's cast: 0
Number of Lustrate's cast: 0

Total number of GCDs outside of Cleric Stance? 17.

As a side note, the tank never dropped below ~75% HP, and no one died (save for a DPS who got caught in animation lock LBing the final boss and killed himself and the boss in one go lol)

[Whiteroom]

If he is DPSing, yes. If the tank eat a tank buster, with or without CD, and the healer didn't heal him immediatley because is DPSing, i helaer fault. If the tank isn't use CD, but still have good mitigation and the healer is DPSing, is healer fault.

It is a small bright spot that I will never have to heal you.

While a healer should be ready with a heal after a tank buster, It is fully the tanks responsibility to pop a CD during a tank buster. Unless you are so overgeared that you can easily take a tank buster in dps stance with no CD, that death is on you.

[Xlantaa]

It is a small bright spot that I will never have to heal you.

While a healer should be ready with a heal after a tank buster, It is fully the tanks responsibility to pop a CD during a tank buster. Unless you are so overgeared that you can easily take a tank buster in dps stance with no CD, that death is on you.

That's a bit of personal attack. You're are supossing I play tank without CD, or tank stance or something.

I think people is not reading me at all or I didn't expalin myselft because my english is very limited. They still think I'm blaming heals, when I'm also a healer as second class, and I fought with tanks with low Hp and not useing CD, all the days.

I will try explain myself again. If me, a healer, see the tank Hp drops, I use heal. But, if instead of heal, I see the Hp drops, but I stay on Cleric and I continue DPSing, I think it is my fault. Can be the tank fault? Yes, but then is both fault,so it is still my fault.

[AlphaSonic]

That's a bit of personal attack. You're are supossing I play tank without CD, or tank stance or something.

I think people is not reading me at all or I didn't expalin myselft because my english is very limited. They still think I'm blaming heals, when I'm also a healer as second class, and I fought with tanks with low Hp and not useing CD, all the days.

I will try explain myself again. If me, a healer, see the tank Hp drops, I use heal. But, if instead of heal, I see the Hp drops, but I stay on Cleric and I continue DPSing, I think it is my fault. Can be the tank fault? Yes, but then is both fault,so it is still my fault.

Nope. It is the healer fault if he continues to DPS and the tank dies. But if the tank reaches 500 health and then the healer uses his cooldowns like Tetra, Essential Dignity, Lustrate. He did his job perfectly fine. Healers are here to keep you alive not to keep you at 100% all the time when it isn't even needed.