Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[AngelicSence]

easily the most stupid thing I have ever read, like ever.

show me a healer that can out dps a Warrior. while maintaining group health pools ><

That would be me, as a WHM. Anti tower is easy. I literally keep only 4k MP for heal and rest 11k for DPS. I even run anti tower fast style where healers must continure to DPS and not even a second rest till the end. I usually save assize/holy for end boss doll phase and that can release ppl fast. I maintain people healthy all the time. Those days you will hear lots of clicking sound in my room xD. I

[Shug]

i totally agree with this and while a paladin can somewhat selfheal as a previous poster suggested it isnt a tanks job to heal himself thats the healers job besides that clemency costs half a palas mp and should be used in my opinion in an emergency where a healer is to stressed or the pala has really nothing better to do wich i doubt

Devils advocate here, how can people here say if a healer doesn't dps they aren't playing right, but you turn around and say you shouldn't have to self heal? Wouldn't that be playing paladins class to the fullest?

[Tyrn]

If the tank was sitting on cooldowns when there weren't any tankbusters coming then I'd say the healer was in the right. Not using CDs because the incoming damage isn't near lethal or because you think they're more effective if you activate them when you're at 5% hp is just as dumb as icemages.

[Evangela]

show me a healer that can out dps a Warrior. while maintaining group health pools ><

Most of the endgame healers, I think.

[Warlyx]

easily the most stupid thing I have ever read, like ever.

show me a healer that can out dps a Warrior. while maintaining group health pools ><

show me a tank that outdps a whm on 4+ mobs while on tank stance and maintaining agro...

tanks in dungeons are forced to go tank stance now if they want to keep agro and surive the pulls , while healers are able to go Cleric stance for a while...

and bosses ? why bother going dps stance ? is better to keep agro and mitigate dmg (outside some phases that isnt needed ) than going dps and forcing healer to heal instead of dpsing.

[Xlantaa]

THat healer is just a rude player who forgot what is his role. A healer can DPS when they have margin for that of course, but lets drop to 3000 HP and blame tank for that is is own fault, and no one else. I won't defend a healer who forgot he is healer only because he love DPS. THen maybe he should change to DPS class.

[Pomelo]

I'm mostly in Cleric Stance throwing out gravity, dots and cards. I'd do exactly the same as the healer in the OP and let you drop that low, before using Essential Dignity. (Ofc I probably have HoT's ticking as well) but the healer mentioned in the OP is nowhere near bad.

[Kitano123]

THat healer is just a rude player who forgot what is his role. A healer can DPS when they have margin for that of course, but lets drop to 3000 HP and blame tank for that is is own fault, and no one else. I won't defend a healer who forgot he is healer only because he love DPS. THen maybe he should change to DPS class.

So if a tank's hp drops in seconds because they didnt use cd's effectively thats the healers fault?

[ElieDavion]

Devils advocate here, how can people here say if a healer doesn't dps they aren't playing right, but you turn around and say you shouldn't have to self heal? Wouldn't that be playing paladins class to the fullest?

while i did say that lets set some things straight while a paladin can heal himself it costs half his mp wich he also needs for stupid things like flash.
wich doesnt mean he shouldnt use it or any other cd that should be common sense. it also should be common sense that a healer heals when a heal is needed

[Felis]

Yes; DPS healers is becoming the norm, and has actually been the norm for quite some time now.

While that is right, healers complaining about that they have to heal the tank shouldn't be the norm.